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QuizBowlNerd
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Pretty much what it says on the tin. Do you see there being anything wrong (employing whatever criteria you wish) with this?
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Minks
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Why would it be wrong for a gal to wear a necktie? All types of juxtapositions occur in the fashion world. Like other clothing and accessory items, the typically male necktie on women comes and goes. I see no problem with it.
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fredystairs
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Back in the ‘60s, women used to wear men’s neckties all the time.
As head bands.
As head bands.
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Newhills
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The way things are these days, women should be encouraged to be more feminine not less
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JulianN
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And neckties play into this?
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Irishmom2
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It is a strip of cloth that hangs from the neck. It is purely decorative and serves no actual purpose but to add color it an outfit. How is this even remotely a problem or lacking in femininity? What next, a discussion on how women should not wear pants either because only men should wear them?
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catholiclala
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You know it’s coming.
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EmilyAlexandra
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Hello. I’m not a Catholic, so it is possible that I am missing a specifically Catholic aspect of this question. However, I just wanted to point out that the necktie is not a specifically masculine item of clothing. I don’t know about where you live, but where I live, in the UK, it is fairly common, for example, for girls to wear a necktie as part of their school uniform (I don’t know whether this is the case at Catholic schools). If you see photos of early female students (and academics) at Oxford, you will see that they often wore black neckties as part of the sub fusc academic dress. This was only later replaced with a more “feminine” looking black ribbon, usually tied in a bow. In fact, one often sees women wearing what you describe as “men’s neckties” in photos from the Edwardian era/1920s.
I am not a Catholic, but I am here because I want to learn more about Catholicism. Would you say that femininity is a quality that Catholicism encourages in women? If so, in what ways does Catholicism encourage women to be more feminine? Thank you.
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Neithan
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What is? New fashion? Winter? The end times?
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OKComputer
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How could it be wrong?
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StephieNorthCo
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I thought the sole purpose of a neck tie was to keep the buttons of your shirt or blouse clean.
Who wants dirty buttons?
Both men ans women wear button down clothing.
Who wants dirty buttons?
Both men ans women wear button down clothing.
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Peeps
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Should men wear lace and ruffles?
In the past, men HAVE worn lace and ruffles in abundance, along with curly wigs. The first President of the United States often dressed like this. Was HE unmasculine?
I was a teenager in the 1970s, and for a brief time, men were wearing ruffles, especially on their sleeves–to this day, I love the look and wish it would return. To me, a man wearing a shirt with lacy ruffles is the ultimate romantic look!
Fashion trends are never permanent. What men wore in the 1970s is gone–sigh, and women wearing neckties will be here today, gone tomorrow. Don’t sweat the small stuff.
I personally would never wear a necktie or anything around my neck, and I still don’t understand why MEN wear them. I feel so sorry for them when I see that shirt buttoned up to the top of the windpipe, and that tight knot choking them. My husband has always had a large neck (17.5 inches when he was in high school and weight 140 pounds!), and he always leaves the top button of his dress shirts unbuttoned when he wears a tie–he kind of likes breathing!
In the past, men HAVE worn lace and ruffles in abundance, along with curly wigs. The first President of the United States often dressed like this. Was HE unmasculine?
I was a teenager in the 1970s, and for a brief time, men were wearing ruffles, especially on their sleeves–to this day, I love the look and wish it would return. To me, a man wearing a shirt with lacy ruffles is the ultimate romantic look!
Fashion trends are never permanent. What men wore in the 1970s is gone–sigh, and women wearing neckties will be here today, gone tomorrow. Don’t sweat the small stuff.
I personally would never wear a necktie or anything around my neck, and I still don’t understand why MEN wear them. I feel so sorry for them when I see that shirt buttoned up to the top of the windpipe, and that tight knot choking them. My husband has always had a large neck (17.5 inches when he was in high school and weight 140 pounds!), and he always leaves the top button of his dress shirts unbuttoned when he wears a tie–he kind of likes breathing!
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Lea101
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Short answer: Catholicism encourages virtue in both women and men. There are different types of women in the Church and all are recognised as Saints. E.g. Joan of Arc vs Therese. No clear blueprint on femininity at all. Just don’t sin, practise virtue and be yourself while you’re at it
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EmilyAlexandra
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Okay, so it’s not Catholic doctrine that women are encouraged to be more feminine, especially at this moment in time? More a matter of personal opinion? I wasn’t sure whether, if I were to become a Catholic, I would have to try to be more “feminine” in any particular way.
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Minks
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Lol! Your hubs should at least once try a larger neck size!
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Neithan
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There are classically “feminine” virtues such as compassion, mercy, kindness, gentleness etc. But everyone is meant to practice these. The Theology of the Body teaches that we are male and female spiritually, not just physically, although some few people are actually androgynous. And the church encourages women especially at this point in history to “aid mankind in not falling.” Marian devotion has always been recommended.
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Welshrabbit
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I personally would like this trend in fashion to come back around. I could then justify dressing and talking like a pirate.
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Peeps
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It’s really hard to find dress shirts with neck sizes larger than 17 inches. The Big and Tall men’s shops cater to BIG and TALL men, and my husband is 5’8". He needs to find a Big and SHORT men’s store! How popular would that name be with men?! I’m guessing it will only succeed online, where men can access it in private and not have to be seen going into the “SHORT” men’s store! Poor hubby!
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Annie
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Welcome to CAF!
Catholics are encouraged to become more holy, and this is enough hard work to impose on someone
All too often we get hung up in the outer trappings, so some would say a woman who wears maxi-skirts 24/7 is more feminine than the woman who wears jeans. The only thing the Church really teaches about clothing is modesty, and that is not confined to wearing un–sexually provocative clothing but encompasses wearing what is appropriate for the situation: to wear a diamond tiara to volunteer at a school picnic in order to show off one’s wealth would violate modesty as well.
There are those who want an idealized form of the Church in the 1950s back. Don’t be fooled by them! There are reasons why they are not thinking straight.
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Vico
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I think that statement was in response to Irishmom2: “What next, a discussion on how women should not wear pants either because only men should wear them?”
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