"Womenpriests" in St. Louis ordered to apear before the Archbishop and threatened with interdict

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Since the other thread discussing the excommunication of this group erupted into an argument and has gotten off-topic, I thought it best to start a new thread to discuss the recent developments…

Archbishop Burke threatens “womenpriests” with interdict

At the end of the “ordination” ceremony, the women were handed a letter from the Archbishop and an order to appear before a tribunal on December 3rd. In the letter Burke forbade them from attempting to celebrate Mass (which would be invalid), hear confessions or officiate over any other sacraments lest they incurr the penalty of interdict.

We should all pray for Archbishop Burke. This is the kind of action the Church needs to purge itself of it’s dissenting elements.
 
Frank Flinn, adjunct professor of religious studies at Washington University who wrote “The Encyclopedia of Catholicism,” called Sunday’s event “a watershed.”

“The church is going to have to change on this issue and these women were ahead of the curve.”

He said scholars agree that women were fully functioning members of the early church, but the hierarchy wants to “preserve the male patriarchal model.”
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Professor… I wonder how he got past highschool. Women have always been fully functioning members and have never been priests. Fully functioning members and priests are not the same, but when will those professors learn this? How can you be a professor of religious studies without knowing such a basic thing? Perhaps the only fully functioning citizens are those who can vote in the parliament?
 
Sigh. While I completely am behind the good archbishop and know that he is doing what must be done, there is no doubt that the media is going to play this as the “mean, evil patriarchal” archbishop out to destroy these “brave, wonderful womyn” who are “only trying to be equal in the church.” What will be even worse is how many so-called Catholics will back these dissenters up with their support.
 
mozier said:
Sigh. While I completely am behind the good archbishop and know that he is doing what must be done, there is no doubt that the media is going to play this as the “mean, evil patriarchal” archbishop out to destroy these “brave, wonderful womyn” who are “only trying to be equal in the church.” What will be even worse is how many so-called Catholics will back these dissenters up with their support.
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Wow…imagine how upset they’ll be when he is elected Pope?
 
With any luck, maybe the St. Stanislaus Church board of directors will hire these ladies, thus getting them out of the Archbishop’s hair as well as cementing that parish’s schismatic status.

Though I just assume they renounce their claim to holy orders, repent of their actions and return to Holy Mother Church.
 
It looks like the good Archbishop is being called to be a modern-day St. Francis de Sales! Since at least one of the two “ordained” heretics has said that she will not appear before him (and one can assume that the other will refuse, too), the Archbishop is going to be in the same unenviable position as Bishop de Sales, faced with hostile Calvinist Protestants, some of whom even tried to kill him. This dear saint wrote tracts to them and never gave up trying to reconvert them (hence he is the patron saint of Catholic journalists).

Let us pray that Archbishop Burke will be filled with grace as he continues to show courage by calling to the heretics, the “ordained” and their followers, in the hope that they will return to the Church and Her sacraments! And, further, let us pray that for the graces he needs to stand strong against heretic politicians receiving Our Lord’s Body and Blood until they, too, heed their shepherd’s voice and return to the Flock.
 
Kristen said:
Since at least one of the two “ordained” heretics has said that she will not appear before him (and one can assume that the other will refuse, too), the Archbishop is going to be in the same unenviable position as Bishop de Sales, faced with hostile Calvinist Protestants, some of whom even tried to kill him.
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Hasn’t Archbishop Burke been threatened with death once already? I think it was due to him denying communion to pro-abortion politicians.
 
Sure said:
Here’s hoping that changes!👍
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My prayers are for an African for the next Pope, we need popes that lived through times of persecution for their faith, that is what gave JPII and PBXVI, let us say their “tempering.” Living through the hell fires of the NAZI persecutions of Europe. It made them strong and faithful. :twocents: IMHO
 
Bennie_P said:
My prayers are for an African for the next Pope, we need popes that lived through times of persecution for their faith, that is what gave JPII and PBXVI, let us say their “tempering.” Living through the hell fires of the NAZI persecutions of Europe. It made them strong and faithful. :twocents: IMHO
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You never know what you are going to get. 😃 I wouldn’t be opposed to having one that is Latin American.
 
From prof. Flinn’s page:
and the viability of religious belief in the context of 20th-century science
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What the… viability of faith from the point of view of science? Seriously, what kind of “science” is that?
 
chevalier said:
From prof. Flinn’s page: What the… viability of faith from the point of view of science? Seriously, what kind of “science” is that?
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Like I say, religion without science is not religion, and science without religion is not science. Flinn obviously has an ax to grind. If these dissident Catholics don’t like what the Pope or what an orthodox bishop says they can leave and join the dull and wishwashy Episcopalian Church which changes doctrine on a whim!
 
bones_IV said:
Like I say, religion without science is not religion, and science without religion is not science. Flinn obviously has an ax to grind. If these dissident Catholics don’t like what the Pope or what an orthodox bishop says they can leave and join the dull and wishwashy Episcopalian Church which changes doctrine on a whim!
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I wonder what qualifies him to speak on this issue in the first place. It is obvious he does not even have a basic understanding of Catholic doctrine.
 
estesbob said:
I wonder what qualifies him to speak on this issue in the first place. It is obvious he does not even have a basic understanding of Catholic doctrine.
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It’s because the so-called “high-intellectuals” abhor traditional Christianity. To them it’s “fundamentalism”. The same folks who go into the old canards about the holocaust and the crusades. People like him can’t even take joke. :rolleyes: Not even about religion. 🤷
 
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