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no not a burka. there are modest blouses and shirts as well as dresses and skirts. i never stated one ought to wear a burka.Burka?
no not a burka. there are modest blouses and shirts as well as dresses and skirts. i never stated one ought to wear a burka.Burka?
You said women should wear shirts reaching to the elbow. Why can they not be further up? How is that not modest? Why can a skirt not be higher? Again, I am not saying they should just barely cover up, but why is the knee the cut off? It is not for one person to determine how others should dress. What is “not modest” for one may be modest for another.no, that is true. but women should dress modestly especially in Church because it shows respect for our Lord.
You’d have to tie me down and drug me to get me into one of those gunny sacks. There are plenty of options out there for modest dressing that don’t make you look like some member of a freakish cult or isolationist sect or an 8 year old.There are way more choices than ugly jumpers. And it bothers me that really traditional Catholic mothers seem to go out of their way to make themselves look dowdy. God made women beautiful and they should honor that. When women equate virtuousness with looking really dowdy, that causes young women to reject the whole package.
Yes, I’ve been vehement on other posts about the young girls going to the other extreme. But there is a middle road. I’ve always managed to find skirts that go to my knees at least, capri pants, long enough shirts, flowing dresses. I wear earrings and makeup and do my hair. I believe if I look attractive (not sexy) that I can maybe attract people to what I have to say about God. Face it, people in our society have more credibility if they look good when they say something. Just an indictment of our society.
No one has EVER accused me of looking immodest. The younger generation wants to look nice. If we only hold out to them that to go to heaven we have to dress like the Amish, for all intents and purposes, they’re going to throw the baby out with the bath water. In this case, the baby is the Infant Jesus.
It’s been a pet peeve with me for years that some seem to equate following God with looking like hell.
Happy medium, people!
Nuns are set apart from the world. All Christians are set apart from the world- or at least they should be, but consecrated religious are set apart in a unique way, and in a more extreme way than the average lay person. Priests wear cassocks, and monks and friars wear habits as well. A habit is a way of showing that you are not of this world, and are stepping back, away from the world, even more so than most Christians.What do you think of nuns? Too Muslim and old-fashioned?
After all of the serious topics posted in here, this thread is meant to be a little light-hearted.I think many of ya’ll are being way, way too critical. What’s wrong with a jumper? And why do you even care? I think it’s well, a little catty to critique women who wear jumpers. So not every woman is a fashion model, or even cares about looking like a model. Deal with it!
Pax Christi,
Ann
Sure, sure…not critiquing anyboday, just what they’re wearing. “Gunny saks?” And, “looking like hell?” I could go on, but you know what I’m saying although you play games as though you don’t. But you think this is light hearted. Hmmmm, I dunno, it must be me then.After all of the serious topics posted in here, this thread is meant to be a little light-hearted.
Besides, nobody is critiquing anybody. We’re just discussing clothing/modesty.
Then you are not acquainted with:Huh? I didn’t know that nuns (besides Mother Angelica’s) still wear habits. I can’t remember the last time I saw one in a habit.
I thought lapel pins were the defacto post-Vatican II uniform. And Moe Howard haircuts complete the look.
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Yeah, I’ve got a jumper in my wardrobe, too. It’s a linen jumper and it’s nice and cool. Black. It’s not really a ‘prairie girl’ style…It’s more ‘bohemian.’ It looks good enough for church, with a nice tee shirt under it. No fuss. That’s what I need, what with five kids to get out the door. I could go for a denim one, too.
Itfigures I would notice this thread today. I just added 3 jumpers to my wardrobe!!
I’m normally a jeans and T-shirt sort of girl, but we’re heading into summer now, and I am fed up with trying to find modest shorts. (I’m big and tall, and all the shorts are too short, and cutoffs look bad!!) So I’ve been looking at dresses/skirts/jumpers. I haven’t worn any of these items in years! (I think all those years of school uniforms made me sick of them).
After trying loads and loads of these things, I finally settled on a basic denim jumper. (Cheap, goes with everything, looks all right). I’d rather wear a jumper than too-short shorts!!
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As far as jumpers go- I think it depends on the jumper. There are nice A-line jumpers that go with anything, and jumpers that have a fitted top with a skirt. I think the jumper in question is the “gunny sack” jumper, which is fine for the pregnant and post-partum, but IMOHO, not very becoming even on those lovely ladies in waiting.
- Sisters of Christian Charity.
- Dominican Congregation of New Orleans.
- Dominican Sisters of Mary, Mother of the Eucharist.
- Rockford Colletines.
- Daughters of St. Paul.
- Franciscan Sisters of teh Eucharistic Heart of Jesus.
- Sisters of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, Mother of Christ (and these ladies not only wear habits, but habits that are clearly BLUE).
- Sisters of Charity of our Lady Mother of the Church.
For those trying to break their addicition to gunny sack jumpers, I highly recommend Land’s End.
I think this priest was wrong to speak in this way. This equation of Modesty=Frumpy is very narrowminded, IMO. What does it really matter, anyway? Humility is something that we should be aiming for. One cannot be humble and at the same time concerned with worldly things, and looking attractive is a difficult worldly thing to get beyond. Don’t misinterpret this to mean that one should pay no attention to their appearance, but they need to be paying attention to looking clean and modest, not cutting-edge fashionable. Any husband worth his salt will see the true beauty in a modestly-dressed wife.A while back our priest, in a verging on ultra-traditional community ( I don’t’ like that word, only way to describe it tho) actually did a sermon on women not looking “frumpy” for their husbands. He kinda railed on the Jumper, it was mostly done in jest and was really hysterical. One of those I’m kidding, but not really type of things.
I can’t understand how one can draw a distinction between how one dresses to go to church and how one dresses for the mall. Being a traditional Catholic is not a part-time thing. For me, modesty is part of my belief, and I can’t live that belief some times and not live it other times. Someone asked why elbow-length sleeves are necessary - what was wrong with shorter sleeves? Once you begin dressing modestly, including longer-length sleeves, you feel almost undressed in shorter sleeves. Sleeveless is downright naked feeling. I agree with the poster who said that arms should be covered at least to the elbow, and the “2-finger” rule for necklines is good. It is a lack of understanding and a sign of attachment to worldliness that causes people to react to this with disdain, and throw around words like “burkha” and “frumpy.”I’m tend to have a rather controversial view of Modesty. Being Modest is about not causing scandal. Wearing jeans and a t-shirt to the mall is completely different than wearing jeans and a t-shirt to Mass. You can’t tend a garden very well in a dress. Wearing any sort of form fitting swim wear regardless of how much it covers at a monastery would be a bad thing. I’ve seen women wearing a pant suit that look far more modest and feminin that some women wearing dresses. No guy I have ever meet is going to have impure thoughts over just seeing anyone’s neck, ankles, wrist, knees or elbows. In short I feel the cut and tightness of clothes effect there modesty as much if not more some times than how much they cover. I especially think married women should look attractive (not sexy) for their husbands out love and respect for them.
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- Sisters of Christian Charity.
- Dominican Congregation of New Orleans.
- Dominican Sisters of Mary, Mother of the Eucharist.
- Rockford Colletines.
- Daughters of St. Paul.
- Franciscan Sisters of teh Eucharistic Heart of Jesus.
- Sisters of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, Mother of Christ (and these ladies not only wear habits, but habits that are clearly BLUE).
- Sisters of Charity of our Lady Mother of the Church.
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