Word became flesh?!!!

[brigantine]

could you please tell me how to report him? I was okay with his posts for a while, but he even started a thread saying Mary tomb can be found, and now this. Hes not even trying to make an argument hes just talking randomy.

Hi Benjamin! If you look at the top righthand corner of each post there is a red triangle with an I in it. Click that and report away. His posts are not searching for answers only look to create discord on a Catholic board. There should be a minimum required conduct here and paarsurrey continually breaks it. His posts are offensive to me!

 

[withwind]

paarsurrey, what do you believe about the creation of human beings? Where did we come from?

Thanks!

 

[planten]

Oy vey! Did you not read and understand the earlier posts explaining that “flesh” as used by St. John simply means a human person?

**So by the words of John, it should be understood that word became man. Is that so? We can also replace the “word” with “God” and say that God became man.

So there is no need to say that Word became flesh.**

 

[planten]

Hi Benjamin! If you look at the top righthand corner of each post there is a red triangle with an I in it. Click that and report away. His posts are not searching for answers only look to create discord on a Catholic board. There should be a minimum required conduct here and paarsurrey continually breaks it. His posts are offensive to me!

**It would be quite un-catholic act to report on Paar. the best would be to reply and explain things. If Paar is reported then it would be well known that Catholics have surrendered in the face of some questions about bibleNT which could not be explained.

I also hope that Paar will take notice that the catholics have almost surrendered now. So it is better never to ask any more questions from he Catholics. And no need to read anything too.**

 

[Thing]

**So by the words of John, it should be understood that word became man. Is that so? We can also replace the “word” with “God” and say that God became man.

So there is no need to say that Word became flesh.**

“The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.” - does that quote sound familiar to you.

Your soul or spirit is willing but your body, your physical humanity and will, is weak.

The Word became flesh.
means…
God became Man.
Do come along, planten.

 

[Thing]

**
I also hope that Paar will take notice that the catholics have almost surrendered now. So it is better never to ask any more questions from he Catholics. And no need to read anything too.**

No need to guess what the Catholics here think, just ask.
Has any Catholic ‘surrendered’?
No.
But I understand you not wanting to ask or read any more.
We accept your surrender.

 

[planten]

“The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.” - does that quote sound familiar to you.

Your soul or spirit is willing but your body, your physical humanity and will, is weak.

The Word became flesh.
means…
God became Man.
Do come along, planten.

**Yes, I know. Jesus prayed in the garden. He knew that he was betrayed and was about to be arrested and he knew the plans of his enemies (Death on the Cross).

At that time, he correctly said that **“The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.” ****- that was the right thing to say.

 

[nebula]

**So by the words of John, it should be understood that word became man. Is that so? We can also replace the “word” with “God” and say that God became man.

So there is no need to say that Word became flesh.**

So, you don’t care for the wording of the translation, big deal. That’s irrelevant to the meaning.

 

[theistgal]

I think perhaps our friend **Ben Masada **is right; John’s presence seems has been later added, courtesy our clever friend Paul, in my opinion.

You may not know that your “friend” Ben Masada participates in an Islam forum, where he is just as anti-Islam as he is anti-Catholic here.

 

[Thing]

**Yes, I know. Jesus prayed in the garden. He knew that he was betrayed and was about to be arrested and he knew the plans of his enemies (Death on the Cross).

At that time, he correctly said that **“The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.” ****- that was the right thing to say.

Great. You agree with the Catholics that God became man, the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.

And he saith to Peter: Simon, sleepest thou? couldst thou not watch one hour? 38 Watch ye, and pray that you enter not into temptation. The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.

 

[adrift]

Hi Benjamin! If you look at the top righthand corner of each post there is a red triangle with an I in it. Click that and report away. His posts are not searching for answers only look to create discord on a Catholic board. There should be a minimum required conduct here and paarsurrey continually breaks it. His posts are offensive to me!

We posted at exactly the same time but I must have been a second earlier

 

[Pax_Vobiscum_57]

I know you are sincere but you are a VERY confused individual.

Sincere? I think not. All he did was resurrect his old attack on Christ in another thread. Confused? I don’t think confused is the proper descriptor. Dark would be more apropro.

I’d like to see the mods do something. His entire blog is filled with links to threads from here. Of course, he’ll probably show back up as a sockpuppet.

 

[adrift]

**So by the words of John, it should be understood that word became man. Is that so? We can also replace the “word” with “God” and say that God became man.

So there is no need to say that Word became flesh.**

The word was the Jewish Scriptures. Jesus is the Word because He fulfills all of the Scriptures.

 

[josie_L]

** The question arises: Why did not word become flesh and bones?

It seems that John forgot to invent the correct god for christians by leaving out the bones, by forgetting about the bones.

Flesh needs bones.**

And we also need ears, eyes, hands and legs, the list goes on and on, What is your point? The Gospel writers made it quite clear Jesus took on human form.

 

[FCEGM]

**So by the words of John, it should be understood that word became man. Is that so? We can also replace the “word” with “God” and say that God became man.

So there is no need to say that Word became flesh.**

What God has written He has written. Go argue with Him.

 

[mangy_dog]

forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=4817976&postcount=211

I believe Jesus was never a god who became man

Hi

Our Catholic friends would have us believe that Word became flesh or that god became flesh. Well there seems to be more than that, I think. I am not a physician but as an ordinary man in the street I think flesh is made of soft tissues in the humans and animals. The body could consist of tissues of different solidity; some may or others may not be a part of the human body. There could be some parts having solidity lesser than the flesh while others could have solidity greater than the soft tissues or flesh. Thanks to Paul to inform us that word became flesh.

If we agree to Paul then his concept of Trinity becomes vulnerable; word became flesh, so of what did the subtle tissues thinner than flesh and or harder than flesh were made or who made them. I think Paul must have to revise his brainchild of word becoming flesh, in my opinion. Catholic-god who became flesh must be without bones; as bones are not supposed to be flesh. Paul’s mythical-god therefore cannot be homo-erectus; flesh without bones cannot stand straight.

Paul shall have now to look to at least another god who made the bones; father-god, holy ghost-god, and son-god he made the Trinity with them, now for bones he should name another god, in my opinion.

Kindly, help Paul to revise his mythical theological philosophy.

I love Jesus and would defend him against strange ideas of Paul.

Thanks

This is so stupid.

It only goes to show that knowledge has nothing to do with wisdom or knowing!

Jesus Christ is God! He became flesh (and bone for those of you who are too dense to comprehend that Jesus Christ is perfectly human).

In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.

Don’t allow your degrees to get in the way of your reason.

 

[bpcatholic]

For some reason, when I read what paarsurrey writes, I think of Borat.

 

[paarsurrey]

withwind; 4834955:

paarsurrey, what do you believe about the creation of human beings? Where did we come from?

Thanks!

Hi

Now this is a brilliant question, in my opinion.

We will all; Hindus, Atheists/Agnostics, Buddhists, Jews, CatholicsProtestants, MormonsJWs etc, try to understand as to how the creation of human beings took place.

All must join to understand; all must express fully and freely.

It is also important to know the word “Word”. What is it? And who spoke it?

There is nothing special with Jesus in this connection, in my opinion; after all he was born naturally of a woman, as was Adam born of a woman.

GodAllahYHWH, the Creator spoke the Word “Be” and lo!, everything in the Universe started taking a shape, a formation, they could not refuse the command of the Creator; may be it was a big-bang out of a black-hole perhaps but in billions of years, it came to the present form. The process is known as Evolution and Creation. The process continues, till the Creator GodAllahYHWH speaks the Word “Not to be" and then it would stop; it would come to an end.

Adam and Eve, both had flesh and bones; as one of our friends here says eyes, ears, legs, arms; the whole anatomy of a man. What was special with Jesus? Did he have four eyes, four ears, four legs or four heads or four arms? No, the same as Adam had, in my opinion. Adam had spirit or soul, so had Moses and Jesus. GodAllahYHWH spoke to Adam and Moses; so did he speak to Jesus. Adam and Moses did use all their human body and spirit/soul to express the will of GodAllahYHWH; our friends say Jesus did not use some, so that makes him, in my opinion a less perfect man than Adam or Moses.

I don’t believe it; but that is the logical conclusion to be drawn. I think even all my Catholic friends here would agree to it, in my opinion. Do the Catholics agree to it? I think they do; however no compulsion.

I love Jesus, Mary and Second Coming 1835-1908

Thanks

 

[paarsurrey]

I know you are sincere but you are a VERY confused individual.

Hi

I am trying to discuss this confusion out, mine, yours and everybody else’s confusion. Peaceful and free discussion and research does remove the blind faith or the blind confusion, in my opinion.

I love Jesus, Mary and Second Coming 1835-1908

Thanks

 

[paarsurrey]

Yet again, you call the Fathers of our faith LIERS! Why do you do this? John said he was there. Mary said he was there.

Does Islam teach that Christains are liers and cannot be trusted? Does your faith say that JOhn was a hypocrit who is now in hell?

You do not love Jesus, you call him a lier.

You do not love Mary, you call her a lier

You do not love any Christain. You call them idiots and liers

Hi

I think, I have not used these words liar or idiot here in these forums, never indeed. It might be your imagination or you might have seen it in a dream, in my opinion. Are you a Protestant? Please

May God Allah YHWH bless you!

I love Jesus, Mary and Second Coming 1835-1908

Thanks