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beckycmarie
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I did, and then I went to the drug store and picked up a pack of “mini salon clips” that come in black and silver. They are very small but really effective at keeping veils in place.
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Torroidial
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Oh, no, no I was not suggesting that anyone wears a veil to get a reaction. Only that those I have noticed at an OF Mass seem to be looking for one. I remember holding the door for a lady and she hesitated in order to put on a veil. She was thankful that I held the door but the expression on her face changed once she donned her veil and not in a positive way.
She sorta looked like someone who was getting ready to walk through a rally of people while carrying a sign that differed from the message of the rally. In her case she definitely looked around for a reaction. None were forthcoming from what I recall.
[If you want me to guess, and that’s all it is, a guess, she was not acting that way because of previous reactions from others (those are simply too easy to ignore in a church setting.) She was acting the way she was because she wanted to put on a show and feed her own ego by displaying just how pious she thought she was.]
It really doesn’t matter though. Women have the approval (but not the requirement) to wear head coverings in church. It’s not an issue.
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Torroidial
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Those are great. I use those on my kippah!
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Torroidial
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Why such a judgment? You don’t know me. Please don’t infer that you do. This is a liturgical non-issue.lol. Yes, i’m sure that happens
Now let me guess where you stand on liturgical issues… hmmm.
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Freshman88
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lol, that’s rich. Let’s try turing this around.
Why such a judgement? You don’t know those who wear veils. Please don’t infer that you do.
It seems the shoe fits.
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Freshman88
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So let me get this straight. You saw one lady put on a veil and had then looked “like someone who was getting ready to walk through a rally of people”… and now those who put on veils are looking for attention? That’s quite the jump. And don’t say that you’re not suggesting that they do this to get a reaction and then proceed to tell an anecdote that has that exact implication. And the distinction between wearing a veil for attention and looking for attention is quite thin.
Tell me, what exactly does that “look”, look like?
Is it something like a Linebacker trying to break through an offensive line?
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Torroidial
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Actually I do know them. They are fellow parishioners and I have known them for years.lol, that’s rich. Let’s try turing this around.
Why such a judgement? You don’t know those who wear veils. Please don’t infer that you do.
It seems the shoe fits.
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Torroidial
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Let’s break down what you said because I certainly don’t want you to think you can speak for me.So let me get this straight. You saw one lady put on a veil and had then looked “like someone who was getting ready to walk through a rally of people”… and now those who put on veils are looking for attention? That’s quite the jump. And don’t see that you’re not suggesting that “they get a reaction” and then proceed to tell an anecdote that has that exact implication. The distinction between wearing a veil for attention and looking for attention is quite thin.
Tell me, what exactly does that “look”, look like?
First, no way did I infer with my words that her actions explained why her or any other woman would wear a veil. Quite the opposite in fact. Read carefully and please don’t ever try to speak for me again.
In her specific case I took a GUESS (and noted it as such) as to why I felt she acted as she did. If you read carefully you’ll note that I was guessing about why she acted the way she did, not why she was wearing a veil. If you want to infer that she wore the veil in order to put on a show then that’s your personal opinion. It’s not what I wrote. I also think I did a fairly adequate job of describing her look. If that leaves you confused there really isn’t more I can say that will help.
As I said though it really doesn’t matter. Women have the approval (but not the requirement) to wear head coverings in church. It’s not an issue.
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Freshman88
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And every Sunday they put on their veil and look for attention? Sure.
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Freshman88
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Why else would you give this incident, if not to make a point.
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Torroidial
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Please don’t ever try to speak for me again. Your interpretation of what I wrote is clearly inaccurate. For you to post it as if it is what I had originally written is wrong.
If you want to ask a specific question about what I actually wrote, I will try to answer it. I will not respond to your faulty interpretations/additions.
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Walking_Home
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By the reaction you have towards the ladies who veil-- it seems you have a bone to pick. More likely – the lady was looking around for a place to sit —Not looking for a “reaction” to her veil.
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dove51
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Hey guys, I posed this question to my fellow traditional women who veil. I didn’t want to start up a tiff between others, and I don’t want to get in trouble.
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Clairdelune_89
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Charity! Charity, please everyone. Must we be nasty over something as simple as a mantilla?
Moving on to answer the original question…
I don’t wear a mantilla, but a scarf exactly for the reason that I’m afraid that by wearing a mantilla I will look self-righteous. Or that people will interpret me wearing a mantilla as “pretending to be pious” or some other nonsense. The only reason I do it is out of humility and love for Our Lord.
I think he’s the only judge that matters, am I right? Why would anyone look at someone else who is wearing a head covering in church and pretend to know their intentions for wearing it?
Moving on to answer the original question…
I don’t wear a mantilla, but a scarf exactly for the reason that I’m afraid that by wearing a mantilla I will look self-righteous. Or that people will interpret me wearing a mantilla as “pretending to be pious” or some other nonsense. The only reason I do it is out of humility and love for Our Lord.
I think he’s the only judge that matters, am I right? Why would anyone look at someone else who is wearing a head covering in church and pretend to know their intentions for wearing it?
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aimee
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I wear a hat…my veil was torn when I washed it improperly:blush:
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Torroidial
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I found your posting very thought provoking. If I recall most Catholic women wore hats to Mass in the old days. They wore mantillas, scarfs or a Kleenex on their heads when they were mot wearing a hat for the day, such as in school.Charity! Charity, please everyone. Must we be nasty over something as simple as a mantilla?
Moving on to answer the original question…
I don’t wear a mantilla, but a scarf exactly for the reason that I’m afraid that by wearing a mantilla I will look self-righteous. Or that people will interpret me wearing a mantilla as “pretending to be pious” or some other nonsense. The only reason I do it is out of humility and love for Our Lord.
I see very few hats, Kleenex or scarfs worn today. But I do see mantillas. I wonder why that is? The fact that you wear a scarf and not a mantilla actually speaks volumes to me. Very positive volumes.
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CB_Catholic
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I am sitting here shaking my head at some of these exchanges. The OP states she got weird “looks”. Another poster states a lady wearing a veil got a certain “look” on her face when she put on her veil. Now why did one interpretation of a “look” become acceptable, while another’s interpretation of somebody’s look cause some controversy? This is really sad.
First of all, someone’s “look” is really subjective. Maybe the OP felt she was getting weird looks because she expected she might, and interpreted someone’s look as being weird toward her, I don’t really know. And perhaps the other poster misinterpreted the woman’s “look” when she put on her veil. Who really knows what the truth of the whole matter is? I suspect no one. Thus, is it really worth arguing about?
In the second place, this is a message board, and all we see are written words, and we can easily misinterpret what someone has written. Some people have difficulty in putting their thoughts into words, and some people read too much into what is written, attributing attitudes to the poster that the poster might not have. We have to be careful about this, because it can cause us to become uncharitable.
My suggestion to the OP is to just wear your veil in peace and remember that what you perceive people’s reactions are might not be the case, unless they rudely come up to you and voice an objection. Then realize that they are the ones with the problem–rudeness-- not you. You do not need to be self-conscious wearing your mantilla. The thoughts of others can not really harm you, can they?
First of all, someone’s “look” is really subjective. Maybe the OP felt she was getting weird looks because she expected she might, and interpreted someone’s look as being weird toward her, I don’t really know. And perhaps the other poster misinterpreted the woman’s “look” when she put on her veil. Who really knows what the truth of the whole matter is? I suspect no one. Thus, is it really worth arguing about?
In the second place, this is a message board, and all we see are written words, and we can easily misinterpret what someone has written. Some people have difficulty in putting their thoughts into words, and some people read too much into what is written, attributing attitudes to the poster that the poster might not have. We have to be careful about this, because it can cause us to become uncharitable.
My suggestion to the OP is to just wear your veil in peace and remember that what you perceive people’s reactions are might not be the case, unless they rudely come up to you and voice an objection. Then realize that they are the ones with the problem–rudeness-- not you. You do not need to be self-conscious wearing your mantilla. The thoughts of others can not really harm you, can they?
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adelore
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When I grew up in the Catholic Church, we always wore a head covering. At 19 I left the Catholic Church and when I came back I found women didn’t wear head coverings anymore.
I have since been looking into Proper Dressing and Head Coverings for Catholic Women. You may be intrested in the Thread I just posted on the topic.
I for one Miss wearing a head covering. I will go back to wearing one. If others look at me, (no matter how they look, good or bad, after all I can’t really know what they are thinking anyway) that’s fine.
I have posted the links also with my topic.
I truely think we (ladies) need to go back to the head coverings, of course each lady must make her own choice and I will fully respect their choices.
I have since been looking into Proper Dressing and Head Coverings for Catholic Women. You may be intrested in the Thread I just posted on the topic.
I for one Miss wearing a head covering. I will go back to wearing one. If others look at me, (no matter how they look, good or bad, after all I can’t really know what they are thinking anyway) that’s fine.
I have posted the links also with my topic.
I truely think we (ladies) need to go back to the head coverings, of course each lady must make her own choice and I will fully respect their choices.
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brigid12
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I would definitely prefer wearing a headcover, however the looks I’ve gotten when wearing one were not charitable and lead me to not want to be an occasion of sin for others since the Church doesn’t say we have to wear a headcovering. This area is a very relaxed (in practically everything - business casual dress means jeansIt was pretty uncomfortable, actually. I got a weird look or two, and I felt completely the opposite of modest, since I was sort of drawing attention to myself.
Any of you gals do that when/if you have to go to the NO Mass? How do you feel about it?
). I’d like to get a kerchief-type covering and that may not stand out so.
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SenorSalsa
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This is better than the other way I have heard of finding a good Catholic spouse, which was to stand outside of the confessional, and look for who is in there the longestHahaha, it’s a good way for traditional guys to spot potential wives.
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