Wore my veil at the NO today

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I would definitely prefer wearing a headcover, however the looks I’ve gotten when wearing one were not charitable and lead me to not want to be an occasion of sin for others since the Church doesn’t say we have to wear a headcovering. This area is a very relaxed (in practically everything - business casual dress means jeans:rolleyes:). I’d like to get a kerchief-type covering and that may not stand out so.:confused:
Also these are nice when you want the look of a small hat and are still covered.
headcoverings-by-devorah…ari_kippot.htm

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Lots of styles at this site and some are not very noticeable as head coverings just a clothing accessory.
 
Also these are nice when you want the look of a small hat and are still covered.
headcoverings-by-devorah…ari_kippot.htm

headcoverings-by-devorah.com/images/tn_BlackLaceBuchariPrayerCovering.jpg headcoverings-by-devorah.com/images/tn_BlackLaceBuchariPrayerCovering3.jpg headcoverings-by-devorah.com/images/tn_BlackLaceBuchariPrayerCovering2.jpg

Lots of styles at this site and some are not very noticeable as head coverings just a clothing accessory.
I like this one and I often am not all that wild about chapel caps. Thanks.
 
Kathleen, my wife has 4 different colors, to go with what ever her dress is. She lately has been wearing her hat because her veil keeps slides off her head.

Do you have this problem, or can you offer advise on this?
The trick is to wash it in the washing machine.
 
For 2,000 years, Catholic women have veiled themselves before entering a church or any time they are in the presence of the Blessed Sacrament (e.g., during sick calls). It was written into the 1917 Code of Canon Law, Canon 1262, that women must cover their heads – “especially when they approach the holy table” (“mulieres autem, capite cooperto et modeste vestitae, maxime cum ad mensam Dominicam accedunt”) – but during the Second Vatican Council, Bugnini (the same Freemason who designed the Novus Ordo Mass) was asked by journalists if women would still have to cover their heads. His reply, perhaps innocently enough, was that the issue was not being discussed. The journalists (as journalists are wont to do with Church teaching) took his answer as a “no,” and printed their misinformation in newspapers all over the world. Since then, most Catholic women in the “Novus Ordo world” have lost the tradition.
When the 1983 Code of Canon Law was produced, veiling was simply not mentioned (not abrogated, mind you, but simply not mentioned). However, Canons 20-21 of the 1983 Code of Canon Law make clear that later Canon Law abrogates earlier Canon Law only when this is made explicit and that, in cases of doubt, the revocation of earlier law is not to be presumed; quite the opposite:
Canon 20 A later law abrogates or derogates from an earlier law, if it expressly so states, or if it is directly contrary to that law, or if it integrally reorders the whole subject matter of the earlier law. A universal law, however, does not derogate from a particular or from a special law, unless the law expressly provides otherwise.

Canon 21 In doubt, the revocation of a previous law is not presumed; rather, later laws are to be related to earlier ones and, as far as possible, harmonized with them.
Canons 27 and 28 add to the argument:

Canon 27 Custom is the best interpreter of laws.

Canon 28 Without prejudice to the provisions of can. 5, a custom, whether contrary to or apart from the law, is revoked by a contrary custom or law. But unless the law makes express mention of them, it does not revoke centennial or immemorial customs, nor does a universal law revoke particular customs.
Hence, according to Canon Law and immemorial custom, women are still to veil themselves.

Christian veiling is a very serious matter, and not one that “just” concerns Canon Law, but also two millennia of Church Tradition – which extends back to Old Testament tradition and to New Testament admonitions. St. Paul wrote. Continued in next posting…
 
I wore a veil once at Mass, because I wanted to do God’s Will.

Turns out only women are suppose to wear veils. :o :o :o :o :o

But I offered it up to God. Gotta glory in the Cross of Jesus! 🙂
 
For 2,000 years, Catholic women have veiled themselves before entering a church or any time they are in the presence of the Blessed Sacrament (e.g., during sick calls). It was written into the 1917 Code of Canon Law, Canon 1262, that women must cover their heads – “especially when they approach the holy table” (“mulieres autem, capite cooperto et modeste vestitae, maxime cum ad mensam Dominicam accedunt”) – but during the Second Vatican Council, Bugnini (the same Freemason who designed the Novus Ordo Mass) was asked by journalists if women would still have to cover their heads. His reply, perhaps innocently enough, was that the issue was not being discussed. The journalists (as journalists are wont to do with Church teaching) took his answer as a “no,” and printed their misinformation in newspapers all over the world. Since then, most Catholic women in the “Novus Ordo world” have lost the tradition.
When the 1983 Code of Canon Law was produced, veiling was simply not mentioned (not abrogated, mind you, but simply not mentioned). However, Canons 20-21 of the 1983 Code of Canon Law make clear that later Canon Law abrogates earlier Canon Law only when this is made explicit and that, in cases of doubt, the revocation of earlier law is not to be presumed; quite the opposite:
Canon 20 A later law abrogates or derogates from an earlier law, if it expressly so states, or if it is directly contrary to that law, or if it integrally reorders the whole subject matter of the earlier law. A universal law, however, does not derogate from a particular or from a special law, unless the law expressly provides otherwise.

Canon 21 In doubt, the revocation of a previous law is not presumed; rather, later laws are to be related to earlier ones and, as far as possible, harmonized with them.
Canons 27 and 28 add to the argument:

Canon 27 Custom is the best interpreter of laws.

Canon 28 Without prejudice to the provisions of can. 5, a custom, whether contrary to or apart from the law, is revoked by a contrary custom or law. But unless the law makes express mention of them, it does not revoke centennial or immemorial customs, nor does a universal law revoke particular customs.
Hence, according to Canon Law and immemorial custom, women are still to veil themselves.

Christian veiling is a very serious matter, and not one that “just” concerns Canon Law, but also two millennia of Church Tradition – which extends back to Old Testament tradition and to New Testament admonitions. St. Paul wrote. Continued in next posting…
For years women wore head coverings in Mass. Yet for several past years more women don’t.
**Are we (in general terms) Catholic Women becoming like our "Prodesent Sister’s? ** Why should we be Protesting Wearing Veils/Head Coverings, it’s all over in the Bible to wear them and it’s been a **Tradition **of the Catholic Church for years.

St. Paul wrote.

1 Corinthians 11:1-17:
Be ye followers of me, as I also am of Christ. Now I praise you, brethren, that in all things you are mindful of me and keep my ordinances as I have delivered them to you. But I would have you know that the head of every man is Christ: and the head of the woman is the man: and the head of Christ is God. Every man praying or prophesying with his head covered disgraceth his head. But every woman praying or prophesying with her head not covered disgraceth her head: for it is all one as if she were shaven. For if a woman be not covered, let her be shorn. But if it be a shame to a woman to be shorn or made bald, let her cover her head. The man indeed ought not to cover his head: because he is the image and glory of God. But the woman is the glory of the man. For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man [c.f. Genesis 2-3]. For the man was not created for the woman: but the woman for the man. Therefore ought the woman to have a power over her head, because of the angels. But yet neither is the man without the woman, nor the woman without the man, in the Lord. For as the woman is of the man, so also is the man by the woman: but all things of God. You yourselves judge. Doth it become a woman to pray unto God uncovered? Doth not even nature itself teach you that a man indeed, if he nourish his hair, it is a shame unto him? But if a woman nourish her hair, it is a glory to her; for her hair is given to her for a covering. But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, nor the Church of God . Now this I ordain: not praising you, that you come together, not for the better, but for the worse.
According to St. Paul, we women veil ourselves as a sign that His glory, not ours, should be the focus at worship, and as a sign of our submission to authority. It is an outward sign of our recognizing headship, both of God and our husbands (or fathers, as the case may be), and a sign of our respecting the presence of the Holy Angels at the Divine Liturgy. In veiling, we reflect the divine invisible order and make it visible. This St. Paul presents clearly as an ordinance, one that is the practice of all the churches.
 
In all charity, many very knowledgeable and orthodox priests (Fr. Serpa, for one) have said that canon law no longer requires veiling (although, IMHO, it is a great pious devotion!). Plus, we don’t have absolute knowledge that Bugnini was a freemason. It doesn’t look good for him at all, however we don’t know for certain - besides, even if we were to find out for certain we still wouldn’t know his heart when/if he entered and if, he in his heart, later disavowed freemasons before he designed the NO. Besides, a Pope introduced it to Catholics.

I love lace and getting dressed up for Him at Mass, however even wearing my denim skirt rather than pants - the most I can summon up the courage to do right now :o - separates me some from the congregation here. I think that for Sundays in Ordinary Time a kerchief is the way to go for me (or a snow cap/muffler in this weather) - I’m a chicken at heart 😃 . On Solemnities the chapel cap. Luckily for me, He knows my heart - and my shy ways:shrug: .
 
It was pretty uncomfortable, actually. I got a weird look or two, and I felt completely the opposite of modest, since I was sort of drawing attention to myself. 😦

Any of you gals do that when/if you have to go to the NO Mass? How do you feel about it?
keep it up.
 
It was pretty uncomfortable, actually. I got a weird look or two, and I felt completely the opposite of modest, since I was sort of drawing attention to myself. 😦

Any of you gals do that when/if you have to go to the NO Mass? How do you feel about it?
This is the definition of modest:not offensive to sexual mores in conduct or appearance

So, just because those women/men looked at you, doesn’t mean you were not being modest.

The looks could be from shock, unfamilar, questions, or curiosity. I get that a lot, I give out the little books I get about the veil.

Don’t let them stop you. Wear it with the pride of knowing that is what God wants you to do.
 
Well I’ve seen a lot of postings here about “looks”. As a psychologist I find it interesting how people may project their own prejudices or insecurities on others in their “looks”. My fiance can’t stand going to church. The two times he went to see me (1st to get confirmed, 2nd to sing in choir) he would complain that all the people were looking at him with contempt or “hate”. I never noticed anyone looking at all and the people who may have glanced his way were little old ladies who later told me he was very cute. He was just trying to find a reason to dislike church even more, or was placing his insecurities onto the other people. However, I have had some people say nasty things about head coverings of all kinds…like really nasty

On a similar note, my friend went up to the priest for communion with a veil on her head and he refused to give her communion until she took it off her head. Which she refused to do…so he just ended up giving her communion.
 
This is better than the other way I have heard of finding a good Catholic spouse, which was to stand outside of the confessional, and look for who is in there the longest:p
Hey, that’s not such a bad idea. 😃
 
I attend the OF. I wear a hat. I’ve got a nice collection. I sit in the front row with my dd, so I have no idea if people are giving me “looks” or not. I did notice a woman with a pretty black & gold mantilla on today. I didn’t get a chance to chat with her after mass b/c dd got sick and we left during the recessional hymn.
 
I wore a veil once at Mass, because I wanted to do God’s Will.

Turns out only women are suppose to wear veils. :o :o :o

But I offered it up to God. Gotta glory in the Cross of Jesus! 🙂
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Now every time I put on my veil I will envision my husband in it and have to cover my face while I laugh.
 
I did, and then I went to the drug store and picked up a pack of “mini salon clips” that come in black and silver. They are very small but really effective at keeping veils in place.
Yes!! Those are what the Mennonite ladies around here use for their headcoverings. One of their families runs a fabric store, & they sell them there. When I was in school, I remember using them to pin my hair back. They do not slip out the way that a bobby pin will.

To the OP: I am only the 🙂 Friendly Neighborhood Methodist, but if you feel that God wants you to wear a headcovering, then wear the headcovering, & offer up any discomfort you may feel at times.
It is so important for us all to follow Our Lord’s leadings & guidance in these things…(Us Methodists call them “personal convictions”, and they are so very important. You feel that God wants you to cover your head? You cover your head. “It is better to serve God than to please men [and women]”.)

God bless.
 
Yes!! Those are what the Mennonite ladies around here use for their headcoverings. One of their families runs a fabric store, & they sell them there. When I was in school, I remember using them to pin my hair back. They do not slip out the way that a bobby pin will.

To the OP: I am only the 🙂 Friendly Neighborhood Methodist, but if you feel that God wants you to wear a headcovering, then wear the headcovering, & offer up any discomfort you may feel at times.
It is so important for us all to follow Our Lord’s leadings & guidance in these things…(Us Methodists call them “personal convictions”, and they are so very important. You feel that God wants you to cover your head? You cover your head. “It is better to serve God than to please men [and women]”.)

God bless.
You are one of my favs, Zooey 🙂
 
Wish there were more guys like you!! lol my fiance would probably be happier if I didn’t show so much reverence.

On the topic, no one in my parish wears a veil…No one! and I’ve been to every mass time offered. We have a huge parish with several hundred at each mass with 5 masses each weekend.

I used to wear veils all the time at my mother’s church b/c whole families of girls will show up veiled. I just didn’t want to draw attention to myself and I have had experience with nasty comments before. Just didn’t want to cause conflict while trying to focus on the mass
Sorry I am married but I feel the same way about veiling women. I would never expect her to but I wish my wife would veil for Mass. THere is definately somthing holy and attractive about it.
 
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