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Is belief a work?
It depends on what you mean by “belief.” If you mean “faith” then I would say works is a part of salvific faith (as opposed to “lip service” faith which is not salvific).Is belief a work?
I believe that Belief is faith acted out in love or charity or works.Tout la meme chose.It depends on what you mean by “belief.” If you mean “faith” then I would say works is a part of salvific faith (as opposed to “lip service” faith which is not salvific).![]()
I REALLY like this part:
I will tell Pope Benedict XVI when we next chat over coffeeI REALLY like this part:
“Or to use different words faith, if it is true, if it is real, becomes love, becomes charity, is expressed in charity. A faith without charity, without this fruit, would not be true faith. It would be a dead faith.”![]()
I think it is a work because ofIs belief a work?
Excellent reply:thumbsup:I’m going to memorize that one.Thanks very much:thumbsup:I think it is a work because of
John 6:28-29
Then said they unto him,
What shall we do,
that we might work the works of God?
Jesus answered and said unto them,
This is the work of God,
that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
Absolutely yes, faith is a work.Is belief a work?
But not in the sense that Paul used…as in ‘works of the Torah’…Absolutely yes, faith is a work.
Faith is a free gift from the limitless grace of our dear Lord that we can accept by “enduring to the end” or reject by committing unreconciled mortal sin.Faith is a choice,is a decision,is a work.But not in the sense that Paul used…as in ‘works of the Torah’…
and remember too that Faith can be taken in differing senses…
for instance…Faith is a gift from God…infused into us![]()
Again different aspects of Faith can be looked at…and different senses.Faith is a free gift from the limitless grace of our dear Lord that we can accept by “enduring to the end” or reject by committing unreconciled mortal sin.Faith is a choice,is a decision,is a work.
Again different aspects of Faith can be looked at…and different senses.
Yes man is involved in Faith…but it is still a gift …a grace…even when we hold fast to the end for the very grace of perservering to the end is a grace …a gift.
In Paul’s sense …we are saved by Faith (read Pope Benedict XVI above links on the details…very important) and we do not earn it …it is not a work in that sense. But yes we must live in charity and by grace perservere to the end…by his grace…
We are justified by faith not the works of the law…and we then follow Christ and live in charity …of course avoiding mortal sin (by commission or omission) and remain in Christ to the end…by his grace.
Catechism:
179 Faith is a supernatural gift from God. In order to believe, man needs the interior helps of the Holy Spirit.
as Paul writes to those already in Christ …already justified…:
Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; for God is at work in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.
(Philip 2:12-13 RSV CE)
Paul also says that faith is a work in 1 Thess 1:2-3 where he says:"I know your works, your love and faith and service and patient endurance, and that your latter **works **exceed the first.”
I hope this helps.We give thanks to God always for you all, constantly mentioning you in our prayers, remembering before our God and Father your work of faith and labor of love and steadfastness of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ.
Quite.Spaciba.Faith and love are both works.
In John’s vision in the book of Revelation, just before addressing the transgressions of the church at Thyatira, Jesus says in Rev 2:19 that,
Paul also says that faith is a work in 1 Thess 1:2-3 where he says:
I hope this helps.