Worship of the Eucharist

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GiftofMercy said:
"The Catholic Church has always offered and still offers to the sacrament of the Eucharist the cult of adoration,
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Yes it is. You quoted it yourself.

“The Catholic Church has always offered and still offers to the sacrament of the Eucharist the cult of adoration…”
 
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porthos11 said:
Yes it is. You quoted it yourself.

“The Catholic Church has always offered and still offers to the sacrament of the Eucharist the cult of adoration,…
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Again, this does not answer the question, it does not state which of us is correct.
 
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porthos11:
Yes it is. You quoted it yourself.

“The Catholic Church has always offered and still offers to the sacrament of the Eucharist the cult of adoration,…
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Again, this does not answer the question, it does not state which of us is correct.
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Yes it does. It shows I am correct. The passage clearly states the Eucharist itself is the object of our adoration.

We worship the Eucharist because the Eucharist is God. That is why the Church uses the term “transubstantiation”. The substance of the bread is changed into the substance of the Body of Christ himself, making the bread and wine nonexistent, leaving only the accidents.
 
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porthos11 said:
Yes it does. It shows I am correct. The passage clearly states the Eucharist itself is the object of our adoration.
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porthos11 said:
“The Catholic Church has always offered and still offers to the sacrament of the Eucharist the cult of adoration,…
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However, it still does not state Why.
There is no argument here about transubstantiation,
There is no argument here about Christ being present in the Eucharist.
I am going to ask my Bishop when I see him next. Exactly what it is we worship, the Eucharist as God or the presence of God in the Eucharist.
And will leave this on the back burner until then.

Peace.
 
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GiftofMercy said:
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porthos11:
Yes it does. It shows I am correct. The passage clearly states the Eucharist itself is the object of our adoration.
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I agree that it states the Eucharist is offered to us as the cult of adoration.
However, it still does not state Why. I am going to ask my Bishop when I see him next. And will leave this on the back burner until then.

Peace.
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Read again. The Eucharist is not offered TO us as the cult of adoration. It says the Church offers TO the Eucharist the cult of adoration. The Church…offers to…the Eucharist. The Church offers the Eucharist TO US as Food. But it offers TO THE EUCHARIST the cult of adoration. Note who the offerer is (the church) and who the object of that offering is (the Eucharist).

I am not contesting the statement that we worship God In the Eucharist. That is not contradictory to stating that we worship the Eucharist as God, because within the framework of the Church’s teaching that means exactly the same thing.
 
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Yes I had the wrong wording, however on thinking on it, that wording does not say the Eucharist itself is the object of our adoration. It says to the sacrament of the Eucharist the cult of adoration.
I have bookmarked this until after I chat with the Bishop, it really is a great question. I am so glad we had this discussion.
Thankyou.
 
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Actually that is completely wrong, though a common mistake, but nonetheless heresy. The Eucharist has become the body, blood, soul and divinity of Christ.
 
Greetings @GiftofMercy
I have to ask, is there anything with, in, or of, the Eucharist we are NOT suppose to worship?
 
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I think I understand the doctrines of Transubstantiation and Real Presence. And I think I understand that Catholics worship the Eucharist.

But how do we worship the Eucharist?
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Catechism
1378 Worship of the Eucharist . In the liturgy of the Mass we express our faith in the real presence of Christ under the species of bread and wine by, among other ways, genuflecting or bowing deeply as a sign of adoration of the Lord. "The Catholic Church has always offered and still offers to the sacrament of the Eucharist the cult of adoration, not only during Mass, but also outside of it, reserving the consecrated hosts with the utmost care, exposing them to the solemn veneration of the faithful, and carrying them in procession."208

1418 Because Christ himself is present in the sacrament of the altar, he is to be honored with the worship of adoration. “To visit the Blessed Sacrament is . . . a proof of gratitude, an expression of love, and a duty of adoration toward Christ our Lord” (Paul VI, MF 66).
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http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p2s2c1a3.htm
 
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If you are confused about this answer, please ask your priest. He is the one responsible for your soul and will guide you correctly.

If this is a rhetorical question, or intended as non charitable discourse, then you will know the answer.

Unfortunately written communication leaves much to be desired about a person’s intent.
God bless you.
 
GiftofMercy said:
If you are confused about this answer, please ask your priest. He is the one responsible for your soul and will guide you correctly.

If this is a rhetorical question, or intended as non charitable discourse, then you will know the answer.

Unfortunately written communication leaves much to be desired about a person’s intent.
God bless you.
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Im sorry you took my question or tone the wrong way. I dont have any ill intent. I was just thinking i would like to hear you further explain your position from the opposite side of the argument. From what we are to worship involving the Eucharist to what we are not supposed to worship involving the Eucharist. I thought it was a reasonable request from your point of view.

Peace!!!
 
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adf417 said:
Im sorry you took my question or tone the wrong way. I dont have any ill intent. I was just thinking i would like to hear you further explain your position from the opposite side of the argument. From what we are to worship involving the Eucharist to what we are not supposed to worship involving the Eucharist. I thought it was a reasonable request from your point of view.

Peace!!!
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Thank you for clarifying. I do appreciate it. Further up thread I did say I was going to ask the Bishop if it is the Eucharist we worship or God IN the Eucharist. I do know that in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass , the bread and wine become the Body, Blood , Soul and Divinity of Christ. And This sacrifice of Christ we offer with Christ to His and our Father in Heaven.

For me, it is a great question.
Shalom ADF417
 
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OK, so does CAF stand for:
Catholic Argument forums or,
Contrary Answers forums?

“My catechism beats your catechism”… come one, people! At least you have catechisms!

Don’t know how to worship the Eucharist?

Go before to Christ in the Blessed Sacrament and be patient. When you receive your answer, you will be changed.
 
I asked, I was wrong, we do and can worship the Eucharist in itself as Jesus is the Eucharist and is hidden in the Eucharist.
 
Quite refreshing, the phrase “I was wrong” might be the rarest of all phrases written on this forum.
 
I love this prayer during Benediction that also proves it out…
Lord Jesus Christ,
you gave us the Eucharist
as the memorial of your suffering and death.
May our worship of this sacrament of your Body and Blood
help us to experience the salvation you won for us
and the peace of the kingdom
where you live with the Father and the Holy Spirit,
one God, for ever and ever.
 
Glad you were straightened out. The formulation you used was classic Lutheranism - Consubstantiation - which is heresy
 
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