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milimac
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You mean beautiful story, beautiful scenery, or beautiful morality?
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Julianna
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I didn’t see Titanic, because I know the story, and having lived through all the disaster movies of the 70’s/80’s, …I could do without that one.
I have seen Dogma, and found it mildly amusing. I have seen Stigmata, twice…and it kept me on the edge of my seat. I haven’t seen th DaVinci code yet. I have read the book and it was interesting FICTION.
High Plains Drifter?? not very fond of the old spaghetti westerns. Sudden Impact was the best in Harry series.
I can’t think of a movie that is worst for Catholics…as I if a movie comes out, and I’m interested, I’ll go see it. If I don’t like it…I’ll let anyone know I didn’t like it and why.
It all depends on opinion.
I have seen Dogma, and found it mildly amusing. I have seen Stigmata, twice…and it kept me on the edge of my seat. I haven’t seen th DaVinci code yet. I have read the book and it was interesting FICTION.
High Plains Drifter?? not very fond of the old spaghetti westerns. Sudden Impact was the best in Harry series.
I can’t think of a movie that is worst for Catholics…as I if a movie comes out, and I’m interested, I’ll go see it. If I don’t like it…I’ll let anyone know I didn’t like it and why.
It all depends on opinion.
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Mirdath
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I loved High Plains Drifter (and pretty much every other Eastwood western I’ve seen). I just didn’t think the rape, hell imagery, murder, or arson would go over really well here, but hey, glad someone else enjoyed it
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Katie1723
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Count me as a High Plains Drifter/ Eastwood fanI loved High Plains Drifter (and pretty much every other Eastwood western I’ve seen). I just didn’t think the rape, hell imagery, murder, or arson would go over really well here, but hey, glad someone else enjoyed it
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childofmary1143
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SHAME ON YOU FOR BETRAYING YOUR FAITH
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Julianna
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Now most would say that your remark is uncharitable. No, it’s just your opinion. I have read many of CathCentrists posts…and find him/her to be right out there with it. Expressing an opinion on a movie doesn’t cause one to betray their faith.
Having described the movie Titanic as you did in your original post and your second post…I have to ask if the sex scenes and nudity bothered you so much…why didn’t you leave the theater, (or if you rented the DVD, press the STOP button)?
And your use of the word “sucks”…hmmmm…interesting choice.
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childofmary1143
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Well I justify my comment based on what he said to me not a compliation of all his previous posts. He didn’t just express his opinion on the movie, he insulted me by saying that I am an evangelical because I uphold CATHOLIC teaching regarding sexuality.
For you to assume a sexual connotation with me using the word “sucks” tells me that you are unfamiliar with contemporary slang.
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didymus
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“Sucks” is a shortening of “that sucks d***” or “that sucks the big one”. I can remember when even the shortened version was considered an expletive and not used in polite conversation.
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gmarie21
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I read a Kevin Smith interview when the movie was coming out. He actually is a faithful Catholic and threw in those heretical comments and such, not to degrade the Church, but to show how some Catholics are (and do many things against Church teaching, including priests). I think one has to understand Smith’s warped thinking to “get” his movies and their messages, unfortuately, many in the general population don’t which is where the problem was with this movie (as well as some of his other movies). One has to realize that in his movies he always, ALWAYS seems to take the exagerated approach of every aspect, theme and character (Mall Rats is a great example of the exageration). I would never recommend Dogma to a non-Catholic, but one who knows the teaching of the Church and is solid in their faith could watch this without losing their way. And just like you, this movie caused me to look deeper into the teachings of the Church because I knew there were so many incorrect statements in the movie.
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aboverubies
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I wish I had never seen The Exorcist. I don’t know about “the worst movie for Catholics” but this one was the “worst movie for aboverubies.” I had to pray and pray for those images to fade and even now they will sometimes come to mind unbidden.
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patrick457
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It IS the exception, i think. At least it is kinda surprising that a public Marxist, Atheist and homosexual directed a film that many people consider as one of the best portrayals of Jesus’ life.Haven’t seen that, but it seems to be the exception
Pasolini came up with that one when he read the Gospels while stranded in Assisi because of a traffic jam. He was there to heed the call of Pope John XXIII’s dialogue with Non-Christian filmmakers. (He in fact dedicated the film to ‘The dear happy familiar memory of Pope John XXIII’)
He filmed this in Matera (same location as The Passion of the Christ), with no script except the text of the Gospel itself, with no other cast except the locals of the area.
The irony is that when Pasolini made that film, many Marxists disowned him for making such a film, but it won the first prize at the International Catholic Office of the Cinema.
Here’s a website with screenshots and scenes from the film [you’ll need Realplayer, though]. But note that the samples of the film in the website are dubbed; the one commonly distributed has the original Italian with English subtitles.
hollywoodjesus.com/gospel_matthew.htm
Okay. Now to continue with the discussion…
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Mary3
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You know, I see your point. But, I have a friend who was eventually drawn to the Catholic Church by this movie. It fueled his fascination with the Church and sent him on a journey to learn more. Just proves that God can and does use everything for our good.
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CathCentrist
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ROTF!
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MikeWM
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Yes, fair enoughGiven the things I’ve seen people here objecting to, I think ‘most’ is a safe bet, if not ‘all’
I was thinking specifically of Blue Velvet, Mulholland Drive, Eraserhead… I think you get the idea
Both Blue Velvet and Eraserhead are probably more ‘weird’ than specifically immoral, though I’m not trying to approach them theologically at the moment, where I’m sure they have all manner of problems.However, you’ve reminded me that I still have to watch Mulholland Drive. I bought the DVD years ago and still haven’t watched the thing. This weekend seems a good idea
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Mirdath
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Have fun, it’s greatYes, fair enough
However, you’ve reminded me that I still have to watch Mulholland Drive. I bought the DVD years ago and still haven’t watched the thing. This weekend seems a good idea
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It’ll seriously mess with your head, but I guess as a Lynch fan you’re expecting that already…
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Lion_of_Narnia
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I assume you object to the dialogue when “The Man with No Name” orders the townfolk to paint all of the town’s buildings red (as in blood, blood guilt)
Minister: “Even the Church?!”
MWNN: “Especially the church”
Almost the entire town (excepting one woman who was held back, and one “Little person” who was toofrightened to do anything but hide) atched and approved of the town sheriff being whipped to death by company thungs to cover up an embezzelment scam. The MWNN was strngly implied to be an angel (of Death?) to bring harsh justice to the town–to let them know they crime they participated in had not been overlooked.
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Lion_of_Narnia
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Ok, my quick list
more to come…
- Da Vinci Code–fiction?–comeon, the book and the movie claim to be based on fact, to advance Browns anti-christian tripe–fiction is often used to advance social, political, religious viewpoints–and people’s faiths have been harmed as a result of the “fact claims”
- Dogma–if the director meant this as satire, he did it BADLY his excuses are just that and as bad as his “satire”
- Stigmata: false to fact lies
more to come…
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CatholicSam
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So everyone is basically listing the same 4-5 movies. Come on, rack those brains, people!
I saw Pay It Forward recently and was highly disappointed. No, it wasn’t terrible, but it could have been SO much better! And of course they really could have left out the boy’s mom sleeping with his teacher almost right in front of him. It also seemed to imply that his teacher moved in with his mom. And at first the teacher didn’t want to sleep with the boy’s mom. Why couldn’t he just say “I respect you too much to do that after only knowing you for a couple of weeks.”? Oh well! “Paying it forward” was a cute concept though.
I saw Pay It Forward recently and was highly disappointed. No, it wasn’t terrible, but it could have been SO much better! And of course they really could have left out the boy’s mom sleeping with his teacher almost right in front of him. It also seemed to imply that his teacher moved in with his mom. And at first the teacher didn’t want to sleep with the boy’s mom. Why couldn’t he just say “I respect you too much to do that after only knowing you for a couple of weeks.”? Oh well! “Paying it forward” was a cute concept though.
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Mirdath
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I don’t object to it, like I said I think it’s a great movie
Just didn’t think it’d get such a warm reception here, what with the rape and murder and all.Actually I looked at the story as a slightly different metaphor: the Stranger is Satan, Lago a corner of Hell. And the devil has come in disguise to remind the people in Lago that he is their ruler, and that no matter how evil they are or have been, he’s worse.
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Epsilon_Omega
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I agree greatly, but I would emphasize any of the American Pie movies, Not another teen movie (the Jock’s sister sticks the cruxific of a rosary in her mouth in a sexual way), and most of all, EuroTrip. In Eurotrip they are visiting the Vatican and go into a restricted area, and are messing with the popes stuff. They burn something in a fire and it puts out white smoke, and the guy stumbles out with the popes hat on with I think a curtain on. It shows that he is “the new pope.” Later, him and a girl he meets have sex in a confessional while an old lady is trying to give a confession. Its so full of filth.
Yes, mommyof4, we do need to have a vomiting smilie right now.
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