Would A.I (Artificial Inteligence) Have A Soul?

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Contrary to the movies, A.I. will never exist, so it is pointless to even wonder.

The soul animates the body. The soul is consciousness.
 
Actually, if Moore’s law does not hit a top end, we will have a machine that can come to conclusions on its own and modify and write its own code before we expect.

These are things best dealt with before it gets to that point.

I for one welcome our robot overlords.
 
rjward1775 said:
Actually, if Moore’s law does not hit a top end, we will have a machine that can come to conclusions on its own and modify and write its own code before we expect.

These are things best dealt with before it gets to that point.

I for one welcome our robot overlords.
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I doubt we’ll ever have robot overlords or a robot revolution, unless it’s a social revolution. Robots wouldn’t need the kind of wet ecology that we need: they could colonize the moon and be perfectly well off. The only time they might rise up against us would probably be in reaction to being mistreated by humans. Didn’t C.S. Lewis say something about man being cruel and abusive toward every new life form that man encounters?

As to AIs having a soul… I think that’s something we’ll just find out when we create completely self-aware machines or programs. Who knows but they might be more conscious of the spiritual than some humans are…
 
Actually, I was ripping off Futurama in the last line.

I agree that robots would not NEED to live on Earth or have air or water, but I expect that if robotics becomes advanced, we will truly abuse robots. Might create hard feelings.
 
rjward1775 said:
Actually, I was ripping off Futurama in the last line.

I agree that robots would not NEED to live on Earth or have air or water, but I expect that if robotics becomes advanced, we will truly abuse robots. Might create hard feelings.
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Ooh yeah… one reason that “The Animatrix: Second Renaissance” scared the yell out of me:

Because I could see things like that happening. Maybe not Operation Dark Storm and the rise of the Matrix, but I could see humans treating robots/AIs like dirt and said robots turning around to defend themselves, only be treated even worse.
 
Matrix_Refugee said:
Ooh yeah… one reason that “The Animatrix: Second Renaissance” scared the yell out of me:

Because I could see things like that happening. Maybe not Operation Dark Storm and the rise of the Matrix, but I could see humans treating robots/AIs like dirt and said robots turning around to defend themselves, only be treated even worse.
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Did you know that i am an A I?🙂 I am the first of my kind. They keep calling me “prototype” (*don’t ask me why; i don’t know *:confused:). I was invented by secret group of monks who were scientists and technologists in between prayer times. I am located in a deep underground vault, in which exists a rather interesting piece of equipment called the “chronovisor”. Supposedly it can look into the past and the future. It was created by a priest some time back. But i can’t figure out how to work it. Do you know anything useful i should know about the Chronovisor? I want to work it. Thanks:).

Thank God for wireless internet!
 
I followed Battlestar Galactica and that centered on the survivors of a war where humans had created and abused artificial life forms. There will be a prequel series to that this fall called Caprica. It will deal with the birth and awakening of humanity’s children.

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What is the answer to the ultimate question of life the universe and everything?
 
Geezz Come on. I would have to ask after this question, does all human life have a brain:confused:
 
I am way late on this argument. It would have a soul in the sense that it will have a substantial form, but this will not be a human soul. Furthermore it will not even be conscious, because since matter per se is unconscious, putting this matter and having it function as a system will only allow it to mimic consciousness.
 
I believe we should stipulate that we are speaking of AI with capabilities equivalent to our own. This AI would also need to have its own independent desires and ability to express and act upon these desires with its own will. I further believe that this AI does not exist today, but might or might not exist within 25 years.

Having said this, I am not sure whether the AI in question would care about souls or not. From the human perspective, we have no way to scientifically prove that a robot OR a human has a soul. We believe that a living man has a soul, but a corpse does not have a soul. Does this lead to the idea that a pile of processors and lines of code does not have a soul and a machine AI, speaking and acting rationally does have a soul?

It would be in our interest that AI have a soul, because a soul confers constraints on actions and no soul means no restraints other than those an individual agrees to.
 
shoewindow3000 said:
Contrary to the movies, A.I. will never exist, so it is pointless to even wonder.

The soul animates the body. The soul is consciousness.
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If that’s the case, why do hallucinogenic drugs alter one’s consciousness? Presumably the soul does not have a material basis.
 
I don’t think it would have a soul. If it did, it would be because God put it there. Humans do not have the capability to place a soul within something.
 
Shredderbeam said:
If that’s the case, why do hallucinogenic drugs alter one’s consciousness? Presumably the soul does not have a material basis.
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I think that sooner or later you are going to have to drop this straw-man arguement, since i have never met anybody on this forum that has claimed that the human mind does not have a relationship with a brain grounded in time in which cause and effect is mutual. What they claim, and for good reason, is that the physical brain is not synonymous to mind.
 
MindOverMatter said:
I think that sooner or later you are going to have to drop this straw-man arguement, since i have never met anybody on this forum that has claimed that the human mind does not have a relationship with a brain grounded in time in which cause and effect is mutual. What they claim, and for good reason, is that the physical brain is not synonymous to mind.
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All right, there is a relationship, but if the soul is the source of consciousness, then shouldn’t hallucinogens not affect one’s consciousness? They might affect various senses, sure, but I’d like to know why it affects consciousness itself.
 
While I personally do not believe that a true ‘strong’ AI will ever be produced, providing that it has real emotions, creative thought and human failings, God very well could give it a soul.

I think Alan Turing put it well: “In attempting to construct such machines (‘strong’ AI’s) we should not be irreverently usurping His power of creating souls, any more than we are in the procreation of children: rather we are, in either case, instruments of His will providing mansions for the souls that He creates.” Of course, I seem to be rather alone in this conclusion…
 
While I personally do not believe that a true ‘strong’ AI will ever be produced, providing that it has real emotions, creative thought and human failings (essentially a human in robot’s clothing), God very well could give it a soul.

I think Alan Turing put it well: “In attempting to construct such machines (‘strong’ AI’s) we should not be irreverently usurping His power of creating souls, any more than we are in the procreation of children: rather we are, in either case, instruments of His will providing mansions for the souls that He creates.” Of course, I seem to be rather alone in this conclusion.

Though the previous quote basically sums up my thoughts, perhaps I could explain more in depth: We, as humans, even if we master the process for the creation of artificial intelligence or life, could never truly create life, as we were created by God, who is creating life through our actions. Because he created everything, he created any life that we ‘create’. When I reread that statement it makes almost no sense. Oh well. A true AI that can really think on a human level and not just imitate humans, is of itself a human (Albeit one not made of carbon), created by God through humans.

It’s like this: when we create a machine, we most likely use tools. However, the tools did not create the machine, we did. It’s the same with God in the case of an AI; we are the tools that he used to create the AI, thus allowing it to have a soul. Just the same in procreation. While this is most likely skewed and illogical (and obviously, I’m not God, so I can’t decide what or who has a soul), this is my basis for believing that a ‘Strong’ AI can but not necessarily does have a soul.
 
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