Would it be odd for a white European to become a Melkite priest

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I’ve been looking into the Melkite tradition and think it’s really cool. I plan to start attending a parish soon once corona is done and the churches reopen. I’m still discerning priesthood vs married life. I don’t wanna switch to a church were one of those doors would be closed to me. So would it be weird if someone with European descent rather than middle eastern descent became a Melkite priest?
 
I just google image searched Milkite priest and I saw a bunch of European looking guys. One question, can you grow a beard?:bearded_person:t4:
 
Check out Eddie Doherty; he was as non-Middle Eastern as it gets. A beautiful person, he wrote a phenomenal book called The Splendor of Sorrow on the sorrows of the Blessed Virgin. It makes wonderful reading and meditation for Great Lent.

 
Remember that it isn’t prudent to become Eastern Catholic just so that you can become a married priest.

Also, don’t forget that the largest Eastern Catholic Church, the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church, is based in Europe and most of its clergy are European (Ukrainian).

Many Eastern Catholic Churches are based in Europe.
 
That would not be my intention at all. In fact this another reason I’m weary of joining an eastern parish because of people implying that I have bad intentions.
 
That would not be my intention at all. In fact this another reason I’m weary of joining an eastern parish because of people implying that I have bad intentions.
Fair enough.

Perhaps it was wrong to jump to conclusions.

If God is calling to become a Melkite Greek Catholic, then follow his call.
 
I’m more just looking into the different traditions. Since I took the advice of many of the people of the other forum and reached out to some eastern catholic priest rather than orthodox. So I’m just trying to learn more about the traditions and stuff and discerning which tradition is right for me. But I appreciate you holding me accountable because I would assume that some people might switch for bad intention.
 
I belonged to a Melkite parish in McLean, VA. The former pastor there (now deceased) was Fr. Joseph Francavilla. He was about as Italian as they come. Not a drop of Middle-Eastern blood in his veins.

That being said, you do need to be comfortable/at home in Middle Eastern culture since the bulk of your fellow-parishioners (and possibly future parishioners) will be of Middle Eastern descent.

Also, Frs. Hesychios and Sebastian Carnazzo are Melkite priests who are not of Middle Eastern descent.

The point is, if you are being called to the priesthood in the Melkite Church, you will be in good company.
 
There’s nothing at all weird about a “white European” becoming a Melkite priest, or a Melkite at all, for that matter. It is not part of the native historical culture of anyone except Syrians and Lebanese, however, ethnicity means little in one choosing that rite — I am not Italian, nor did any national ancestries in my family tree speak Romance languages, yet the Latin Mass is part of my very soul. (For the sake of argument, English is a mash-up of a Germanic and a Romance language.)

However, if I were a Melkite bishop, and a single young man came to me requesting a change of rite, the very first question I would have is “are you changing rites so you can first get married, then become a priest?”. Any man who is serious enough about religion even to prefer one rite over another, and to seek out a rite that isn’t common in his part of the world, is ceteris paribus more likely to discern a priestly vocation, than a man who never gives different rites of the Church a second thought. The typical Catholic might be only vaguely aware that different rites even exist — many have never heard of them, or may have heard but paid no attention, perhaps thinking “they’re kind of Orthodox, aren’t they, whatever in the world that might be”.

I would be asking “what is it about the Melkite rite? why our rite instead of another rite? — there are several, you know”. When I became a Latin Rite Catholic, no one said to me “hey, just in the interests of full disclosure, we’re not the only rite in the Catholic Church, you know, if you’ve never heard of all these other rites, you might want to check them out before you make a commitment to the Latin Rite”.
 
That being said, you do need to be comfortable/at home in Middle Eastern culture since the bulk of your fellow-parishioners (and possibly future parishioners) will be of Middle Eastern descent.
Well, I know I said that ethnicity means little in choosing a rite, but then again, it is “sort of an issue” — not a deal-killer, just something you might want to consider, in determining how comfortable you’d be. My first home parish was basically half German and half Irish. The German part, I was pretty comfortable with, and I felt like I fit in. The Irish part, not so much — pretty severe, pretty absolutist. (Maybe that’s where I get it 😇) Italian and Hispanic would be totally “somebody else’s nationality”. I have somewhat assimilated into Slavic culture due to marriage, but there is still that subtle difference — “I don’t think quite like you do, I don’t approach life quite like you do, my temperament is just a little different from yours”. My wife and I had many a discussion along these lines. (No, our ethnic differences didn’t torpedo our marriage, I was always very respectful and I am very cross-culturally competent. You learn to be that way.) And so on.
 
choosing a rite
We are churches, not rites. A rite (or rites) refers to the ritual tradition celebrated by a church.

But yes. One has to be quite comfortable with ethnic differences. Even though the Eastern Catholic Churches aren’t supposed to be ethnic ghettos, they often are.
 
This is all very good insight! I’m looking into all the different rites in my diocese. But yea I can see why bishops would be a little skeptical lol
 
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choosing a rite
We are churches, not rites. A rite (or rites) refers to the ritual tradition celebrated by a church.

But yes. One has to be quite comfortable with ethnic differences. Even though the Eastern Catholic Churches aren’t supposed to be ethnic ghettos, they often are.
OK, I was using the two terms interchangeably. I refer to the Church of Rome as the “Roman Rite” or the “Latin Rite”. When I do so, I am saying “Roman Catholicism as opposed to Melkite Catholicism, Byzantine Catholicism, and so on”. I am perfectly aware of the concept of sui juris Churches.

By and large, Eastern Catholic parishes do tend to be strongly ethnic. It is somewhat similar to a parish being devoted to Vietnamese, Hispanics, Koreans, and even African Americans. Some historically AA parishes have become more broadly-based (in the same way that some HBCU colleges have become multicultural and even predominantly non-black in some cases, e.g., West Virginia State College near Charleston), but others retain their historical character.
 
I stopped by a Ukrainian Orthodox cathedral in Seattle a few years ago. The priest was a US born former Methodist minister from California.
 
. One question, can you grow a beard?:bearded_person:t4:
Eastern priests that run sharp metal across their throats are the exception, not the norm . . .
Absolutely not! I’d even venture to say that a majority of Melkite priests in the United States are white Europeans.
The Melkites were way ahead of everyone else in the US, and even the Ukrainians in Canada.

They trained US men, and then sent them off to Antioch . . .where they were ordained in the Mother church, and got lent back to the US . . .
 
This sounds so bizarre to me, as in the US (by the government at least), Middle Eastern people are considered white (check the census definition of white). Now, do you mean, would it be odd for someone of non Middle Eastern heritage to become a Melkite priest? Nope, not at all. A lot of them are Irish or English American here in the US, amongst other things. By, then again, the US is a very diverse country, so it may be different elsewhere.
 
So would it be weird if someone with European descent rather than middle eastern descent became a Melkite priest?
Two of my favorite priests are Melkite priests I’d Italian decent. So to answer your question, no, not wired. My Greek Orthodox priest is as far from Greek ancestry as you can get.

Here is their Sunday Gospel Reflection from last week:


On a side note, switching to an Eastern Church so that you can be a married priest is not wise.

Where are you located?

ZP
 
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I don’t plan to become a married priest. I’m waiting to discern priesthood till after I finish with college so I’m more asking because I don’t wanna switch churches and then in two or three years realize that a door might be shut to me because of my ethnicity.
 
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