Would Jesus have physically defended His Mother?

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I can’t find the source now, but I once heard or read a supposed, perhaps even imagined, quote from St. Joseph recorded by one of the saints that it was necessary for him to die before Jesus’ passion, because if he had been around at the time, the guards could never have taken him.

I wonder, in the same way, if Mary was being literally attacked for whatever reason, with Jesus around, would he have defended her by fighting? I can’t imagine that He would stand by doing nothing, but then it’s also a nigh unimaginable situation, our Blessed Mother about to be assaulted.

Anyway, I’m not sure if this is even a serious topic worthy of discussion, just curious and wanted to get y’all’s opinions!

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Interesting, I hadn’t considered those verses. So do you think then that God would have allowed Mary also to just get away miraculously without harm?
 
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Yes.

It would seem He wouldnt have defended Her for the same reason that He would allow Himself to be crucified, but the picture is as broad as the passion that recreated the world itself.

For He not only created Her, but, it was by his power she was assumed into heaven. And, what’s the same, but to a much lesser extent, how He recreates us.
 
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Here’s what he did to defend His Father’s house from abuse (John 2:13-17), so I have no doubt that He would do the same for His Blessed Mother, especially given the fact that the same God killed Uzzah for laying hands on the ark of the covenant (Mary of course being the new ark). That being said, I believe Providence took good care of her to prevent it at all.
 
Venerable Fulton John Sheen sermon on The Blessed Virgin Mary- The Woman I Love
 
I could picture Him perfroming a miracle to save her or sheilding her with His body to save her.
 
Not sure about the St. Joseph comment. I’m fairly sure Jesus would have just told him as well to “put away your sword” if St. Joseph had still been around.
 
IMO there would not have been a need to get physical. Just slip her out of danger in the midst of the crowd like He himself did.
 
Since our Lord “defended” Mary from all stain of original sin, He certainly could have - probably did - defend her from human evil by something along the same lines. Say, taking one path to Jerusalem instead of another - about which He had knowledge of the presence of evil.
 
I think that if one of the soldiers had laid a hand on Mary that either lightening would have struck him dead or the earth would have opened up and swallowed him whole.
 
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I wonder, in the same way, if Mary was being literally attacked for whatever reason, with Jesus around, would he have defended her by fighting? I can’t imagine that He would stand by doing nothing, but then it’s also a nigh unimaginable situation, our Blessed Mother about to be assaulted.
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Yes. Jesus would defend His blessed Mother. Either physically or miraculously but He would have defended Her.

Here is Jesus almost certainly defending the Blessed Virgin Mary verbally too (from another post of mine with a few modifications) . . .

I read “Jesus and the Talmud” by Peter Schäfer (here) cover to cover and was heartbroken to see this kind of Blessed Mother as less than pure “interpretation” by some Jewish people.

Even the “Editorial Reviews” and the “From the Inside Flap” (on the Amazon page I linked to above) saddened me.

Why? Because it means that at least some Jewish people are taking this anti-Jesus and anti-Mary trash seriously.

These false and scurrilous rumors against the Blessed Virgin Mary MAY have been started by some of the Pharisees in Jesus’ day (I just can’t tell for sure).

The tone of Jesus’ arguing with the Pharisees gets pretty intense AFTER the Pharisees (seem to) imply a DENIAL of the Virginal Conception and Birth.

This MAY suggest these Pharisees are (falsely) implying Jesus WAS conceived of fornication.

The above is a paraphrase but I’ll give the actual quote but you will have to draw your own conclusions.
JOHN 8:34-44 34 Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, every one who commits sin is a slave to sin. 35 The slave does not continue in the house for ever; the son continues for ever. 36 So if the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed. 37 I know that you are descendants of Abraham ; yet you seek to kill me, because my word finds no place in you. 38 I speak of what I have seen with my Father, and you do what you have heard from your father .” 39 They answered him, “Abraham is our father.” Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham’s children, you would do what Abraham did, 40 but now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the truth which I heard from God; this is not what Abraham did. 41 You do what your father did.” They said to him, “ We were not born of fornication ; we have one Father, even God.” 42 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I proceeded and came forth from God; I came not of my own accord, but he sent me. 43 Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word. 44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature , for he is a liar and the father of lies.
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The tone of Jesus’ arguing with the Pharisees gets pretty intense AFTER the Pharisees (seem to) imply a DENIAL of the Virginal Conception and Birth.

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. . . “WEEE are not born of fornication!”–Some of the Pharisees
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This MAY suggest these Pharisees are (falsely) implying Jesus WAS conceived of fornication.

The above is a paraphrase but I’ll give the actual quote below, but you will have to draw your own conclusions.

Initially Jesus referred to these Pharisees as “ descendants of Abraham ”.

But . . . .

. . . . AFTER the “born of fornication” crack by these Pharisees, Jesus NOW refers to them as proverbial children of the devil .

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  • BEFORE these Pharisees implication that Jesus was not of Virginal Conception = These Pharisees described by Jesus as “Descendants of Abraham.”
  • AFTER these Pharisees implication that Jesus was not of Virginal Conception = These Pharisees described by Jesus as Descendants of “The Devil!”
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Things get VERY INTENSE in this exchange saying . . .
JOHN 8:34-44 34 Jesus answered them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, every one who commits sin is a slave to sin. 35 The slave does not continue in the house for ever; the son continues for ever. 36 So if the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed. 37
I know that you are descendants of Abraham ;
yet you seek to kill me, because my word finds no place in you. 38 I speak of what I have seen with my Father, and you do what you have heard from your father .” 39 They answered him, “Abraham is our father.” Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham’s children, you would do what Abraham did, 40 but now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the truth which I heard from God; this is not what Abraham did. 41 You do what your father did.”
They said to him, “ We were not born of fornication ;
we have one Father, even God.” 42 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I proceeded and came forth from God; I came not of my own accord, but he sent me. 43 Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word.
44 You are of your father the devil,
and your will is to do your father’s desires.
He was a murderer from the beginning,
and has nothing to do with the truth,
because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks
according to his own nature ,
for he is a liar and the father of lies.
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If these Pharisees were suggesting what it sounds like they were suggesting . . . . Jesus proceeds to rip them publicly.

I sense Jesus was very unhappy with these Pharisees here.

Make no mistake. Whatever the charge (or lack thereof here) against our Blessed Virginal Mother, Jesus INCREASED the heat of the conversation (they brought this upon themselves).

The late Fr. Stanley Jaki ALSO talks about the “panthera objection” in his book The Virgin Birth and the Birth of Science (which I have also read cover-to-cover). This is a very succinct and quick read and it is worth obtaining.
 
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Your going to benefit a lot by reading the Mystical city of God
you can read it here The Mystical City of God by Ven. Mary of Agreda - Online Catholic Book

Mary did not need any defending she was full of grace and could do any miracle she wanted too. she is the New eve the new creation and was always surrounded by multitudes of Angels sent to serve her, she even commanded the Devil and all his minions. Mary is the first born daughter of God who was pierced through with swords when she played her part in the Passion as she gave to the world her only Son.
No One had permission from God to touch a hair on her head.

Joseph died I believe because when Jesus came of age 30 he could have no earthly head over him, only his Father but I could be wrong on that.
 
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