would smacking this guy be a mortal sin??

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The KC would probably give you a medal. Did you know that the phase “under God” was put there at the request fo the Kof C in the early or mid 1950’s ??

We now add the phrase “born and unborn” at the end of the pledge.

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The KC would probably give you a medal. Did you know that the phase “under God” was put there at the request fo the Kof C in the early or mid 1950’s ??

We now add the phrase “born and unborn” at the end of the pledge.

wc
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no, i wasn’t aware of that…

“with liberty and justice for all, born and unborn.” i like that…

🙂
 
Smacking and hitting kids in Catholic School is not a mortal sin, so I believe you are free to smack whomever deemable of a worthy smack.
 
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Smacking and hitting kids in Catholic School is not a mortal sin, so I believe you are free to smack whomever deemable of a worthy smack.
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well, i was joking…mostly

and in school, i was smacked plenty, but it wasn’t a Catholic school…
i think the difference in the smacks i got and me smaking someone
like this guy, would be that i was smacked by people with the authority to punish me… i have no such authority over this man…

if i did… well, fact is i don’t… lol

🙂
 
I think the seriousness of the sin depends upon how hard/with what you are planning to smack him.

A gentle admonitory dope slap = venial sin.

Strapping him to a flagpole with barbed wire and lining up thugs to wail away at him with blunt axes = mortal sin.

Anything involving a car crusher = better have an asbestos suit ready.
 
Not to start a flame war here, but there really is a good argument for removing the “under God” from the pledge. Aside from the issue of our country being a secular state, one could argue that it amounts, ina sense, to taking the Lord’s Name in vain. Our country is not a Catholic country, nor is it a particularily Christian country. The “under God” is essentially “ceremonial Deism”. Furthermore, we shouldn’t make the mistake of thinking that God likes us better than the Canadians, the Germans, the Chinese, etc. Nationalism, within reason, is not necessarily bad; however, nationalism and religion can be a potentially dangerous mix.

I don’t personally think the we should remove “under God” from the Pledge. In reality, all countries are “under God”, since secular rulers are allowed to have power by God (recall that Jesus told Pilate that his authority came from the Father).
 
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Not to start a flame war here, but there really is a good argument for removing the “under God” from the pledge. Aside from the issue of our country being a secular state, one could argue that it amounts, ina sense, to taking the Lord’s Name in vain. Our country is not a Catholic country, nor is it a particularily Christian country. The “under God” is essentially “ceremonial Deism”. Furthermore, we shouldn’t make the mistake of thinking that God likes us better than the Canadians, the Germans, the Chinese, etc. Nationalism, within reason, is not necessarily bad; however, nationalism and religion can be a potentially dangerous mix.

I don’t personally think the we should remove “under God” from the Pledge. In reality, all countries are “under God”, since secular rulers are allowed to have power by God (recall that Jesus told Pilate that his authority came from the Father).
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I don’t think we can force any atheists to have to say “under God”, but nor can they stop others from showing that they believe in God.
 
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Benedictus:
Not to start a flame war here, but there really is a good argument for removing the “under God” from the pledge. Aside from the issue of our country being a secular state, one could argue that it amounts, ina sense, to taking the Lord’s Name in vain. Our country is not a Catholic country, nor is it a particularily Christian country. The “under God” is essentially “ceremonial Deism”. Furthermore, we shouldn’t make the mistake of thinking that God likes us better than the Canadians, the Germans, the Chinese, etc. Nationalism, within reason, is not necessarily bad; however, nationalism and religion can be a potentially dangerous mix.

I don’t personally think the we should remove “under God” from the Pledge. In reality, all countries are “under God”, since secular rulers are allowed to have power by God (recall that Jesus told Pilate that his authority came from the Father).
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My mom, who is 83 and a Faithful Obedient daughter of the Holy Mother Church always forgets the ‘under God’ part of the pledge. It was not in the pledge when she was growing up. Because English was a second language for her as a child, what she learned by rote pretty much is hardwired into her even now! She can STILL recite the correct answers to the Baltimore Catechism…lololool…

Still, I have a problem with the smugness of the guy suing…like he is really worried about the self-esteem issues of little athiest children…so, I don’t get to smack him 😦 but instead I am gonna pray for him…that’ll teach him.
 
Yeah, I don’t really like his attitude or motivation. I don’t think the “under God” should be removed, but I’ve heard some interesting arguments from Orthodox and Catholic Christians about why it should be removed, which I summarized above.
 
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