Would you believe that I am omniscient?

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Last year, I started a thread regarding omniscience. The thread focused on whether or not we are justified in believing that god is omniscient. It was a great conversation that I feel ended too early, so I’d like to revisit omniscience with a thought experiment.

In this thought experiment, I have claimed to be omniscient. I invited anyone to ask me any question about any topic and answered all questions to everyone’s satisfaction. Science and math questions, unsolved murders, hidden items, the location of lost keys, etc - I answer everyone and no one can find any error in any of the information that I have provided.

Are people justified in saying that I am omniscient? Would you believe that I am omniscient? Why or why not?

Looking forward to your responses.
 
Do you just Google it? Come-on, you can let the cat out of the bag!

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Robert_Sock said:
Do you just Google it? Come-on, you can let the cat out of the bag!
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Haha! Yes, you got me! 😛

Just kidding, no computers involved. In fact, when they ask me questions, they put me in a special holding cell built to house super villains in comic book movies. So I can’t cheat. 😉
 
No, we would not be justified in making such a claim. You could be getting the information from unclean spirits, for instance.
 
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Are people justified in saying that I am omniscient? Would you believe that I am omniscient? Why or why not?
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It wouldn’t be something that could ever be completely tested as there are an uncountable number of questions that could potentially be presented. Though if you were able to do the things that you listed I would not be surprised if some one labeled you as omniscience (especially mainstream media, which tends to simplify a story in inaccurate ways).

If you are the only one that has ever existed that was able to do all of those things you might find that instead of adjectives being applied to your name that your name might be used as an adjective (or s simile, either of which characterizes something else) representing the attributes that are most noticed in your public persona.
 
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Are people justified in saying that I am omniscient? Would you believe that I am omniscient? Why or why not?.
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No and no because that simply proves you knew the answers to the questions being asked. We are finite in our intelligence so we do not have the independent means to verify that you’re truly omniscient. We cannot prove you’re omniscient by simply knowing that you answered all questions we asked to our satisfaction.

Hope that helps!
 
Sparkythedog said:
Last year, I started a thread regarding omniscience. The thread focused on whether or not we are justified in believing that god is omniscient. It was a great conversation that I feel ended too early, so I’d like to revisit omniscience with a thought experiment.

In this thought experiment, I have claimed to be omniscient. I invited anyone to ask me any question about any topic and answered all questions to everyone’s satisfaction. Science and math questions, unsolved murders, hidden items, the location of lost keys, etc - I answer everyone and no one can find any error in any of the information that I have provided.

Are people justified in saying that I am omniscient? Would you believe that I am omniscient? Why or why not?

Looking forward to your responses.
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Are you capable of answering questions about the future?

Are you capable of reading my thoughts and knowing my heart?

Do you know how many hairs are on my head?

Etc…
 
No, I don’t think you can call yourself omniscient.

Your knowledge, as you describe it, would still be restricted to the natural world. We cannot imagine any knowledge outside our physical world, which is limited by 3-dimensional space and time.
 
I wrote:
tee_eff_em said:
Sparkythedog;11920371:
I answer everyone and no one can find any error in any of the information that I have provided.
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I can do that, and I am not omniscient.
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Just to prove that I can do what I claimed:
Thorns said:
Are you capable of answering questions about the future?
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Not with any reliability greater than chance.
Thorns said:
Are you capable of reading my thoughts and knowing my heart?
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No, I am not.
Thorns said:
Do you know how many hairs are on my head?
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Not without counting them.

And those are the absolutely correct and accurate answers to your questions.

QED
tee
 
Sparkythedog said:
Last year, I started a thread regarding omniscience. The thread focused on whether or not we are justified in believing that god is omniscient. It was a great conversation that I feel ended too early, so I’d like to revisit omniscience with a thought experiment.

In this thought experiment, I have claimed to be omniscient. I invited anyone to ask me any question about any topic and answered all questions to everyone’s satisfaction. Science and math questions, unsolved murders, hidden items, the location of lost keys, etc - I answer everyone and no one can find any error in any of the information that I have provided.

Are people justified in saying that I am omniscient? Would you believe that I am omniscient? Why or why not?

Looking forward to your responses.
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So-called psychics do this all the time without claiming omniscience.
 
Sparkythedog said:
Last year, I started a thread regarding omniscience. The thread focused on whether or not we are justified in believing that god is omniscient. It was a great conversation that I feel ended too early, so I’d like to revisit omniscience with a thought experiment.

In this thought experiment, I have claimed to be omniscient. I invited anyone to ask me any question about any topic and answered all questions to everyone’s satisfaction. Science and math questions, unsolved murders, hidden items, the location of lost keys, etc - I answer everyone and no one can find any error in any of the information that I have provided.

Are people justified in saying that I am omniscient? Would you believe that I am omniscient? Why or why not?

Looking forward to your responses.
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Suppose your thought experiment proves that omniscience can’t be verified this way. Don’t you think there are more reliable ways to demonstrate God’s omniscience? I think there are several better foundations for believing in God’s omniscience than because someone tested it. For example, the Bible says He is omniscient. That is sufficient for me. Or how about this: philosophy tells us that God gives existence to all things. Therefore anything that can be known is connected to God’s mind. That seems to imply omniscience to me. What do you think?
 
tee_eff_em said:
I wrote:

Just to prove that I can do what I claimed:

Not with any reliability greater than chance.

No, I am not.

Not without counting them.

And those are the absolutely correct and accurate answers to your questions.
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You didnt answer them, you simply responded.
 
Sparkythedog said:
Last year, I started a thread regarding omniscience. The thread focused on whether or not we are justified in believing that god is omniscient. It was a great conversation that I feel ended too early, so I’d like to revisit omniscience with a thought experiment.

In this thought experiment, I have claimed to be omniscient. I invited anyone to ask me any question about any topic and answered all questions to everyone’s satisfaction. Science and math questions, unsolved murders, hidden items, the location of lost keys, etc - I answer everyone and no one can find any error in any of the information that I have provided.

Are people justified in saying that I am omniscient? Would you believe that I am omniscient? Why or why not?

Looking forward to your responses.
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No, no amount of direct empiracle testing would convince me that anyone were omniscient. It would take reasoning similar to that showing that God is omniscient to convince me that someone were, and that kind of reasoning isn’t really going to work with a human (or rather, a human who isn’t also God).
 
This may be my simple 18 year old reasoning, but I think I can confidently say that you are not omniscient because you are a human, and you are not God. 🤷
 
In addition, a prerequisite of being omniscient is being outside of time and space. All ages of time and areas of space must be considered the “Present” to someone who is omniscient.
 
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