English is not my native language, you might find some errors and I apologize for that.
I need clear answer, if you had the chance would you make homosexual acts illegal like in some countries, would you make someone go to jail or might even get killed if he/she had homosexual sex?
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We are on a catholic forum what means that each catholic lay person:**
Has to purify its own thoughts, who can be indirectly or directly touched by the heresies and / or by the ideologies concerning
the human nature with all the corollaries, and concerning the functions and the roles of the State with all corollaries (the civil law of State, the penal law of State, or both of them).
Thus, each catholic lay person has to refuse these heresies ---- the puritanism, the neo-puritanism, the fideism, the quietism, the jansenism, the neo-jansenism, the catharism, the neo-catharism, the moralism, the judgmentalism, the externalism, the rigorism, the anti-personalism, the anti-phenomenologism, the pharisianism or pharisaism, the evangelical fundamentalisms, the mormonism, the victorianism, the neo-victorianism, all the protestantisms…etc ----
and
these ideologies ---- the communism of State, the socialism of State, the nazism of State, the fascism of State, the totalitarism of State, the tyranism of State, the clanism of State…etc ----
in order to identify in link with the global teaching of the catholic church:
*what should stay in the sphere of morality and not enter of the other spheres;
what should enter and stay, only, in the sphere of the civil law, and not enter of the penal sphere;
what should enter in the sphere of the penal law and also enter in the civil spheres (both for public sanctions --jail or money for the State – and money for the victims --“penal victim and civil victim” --);*
For doing this job, each one needs to purify its own soul with all corollaries, and to do a analysis of the catholic doctrine** in the details and with all the subtleties, for discerning: the fact of identifying the good spheres, in the catholic sense.**
**The chariarization of State, even “in the christian way”, is morally wrong, socially unfair, and legally dangerous for the human nature because the nature of catholicism is very different. Otherwise, it is not a catholic way. The theory of the tolerance of law of state concerning the private sins is the rule. **
My understanding of the catholic social doctrine about homosexuality:
The State has no power to redefine the marriage (a natural institution and a natural contract): no right, no authority and no power of changing the natural acception of what is the true marriage wanted by God (natural moral law in the classical acception in all societies, the universality of marriage by the universal anthropology – man and woman --);
Thus, the civil law of State does not have to recognize the “marriage” for the same sex persons (a pseudo-marriage, a pseudo couple, a false couple, a pair of sodomites, a pair of lesbians, yes the word couple is wrong, only the word “pair” is the good one, in the real and objective philosophy.);
The promotion of homosexuality in school (the primary school, the secondary school, the Grammar school) should be banned by the civil law of State; The homo-education and the homosexuality do not have to be normalized and banalized by the public school and by the governement;
The promotion of homosexuality at the College (at the University) should be avoided, should not be promoted as a normality;
The objection of conscience about that has to be garanteed by the laws of State: the refusal for the catholic structures to be an actor of the adoption in favor of the pair of the same sex persons, the refusal of natural and religious catholic wedding for those pairs, the acceptance of some “discriminations” in link with the sexual orientation, the wrong moral personal behaviors…etc;
The penal laws of State do not have to criminalize the homosexual acts of the same sex persons,
who are consenting adults, in their bedroom, at home, in private place. It is not the business of State of visiting the sodomical beds ;
