Would YOU like to know the results of the removal of communion rails

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This is your personal opinion . Look at how you reacted when it was pointed out how poor the article was, and it’s steeped in opinion ‘fact’

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“My DEAR friend in Christ,

I venture a guess that you were born POST Vatican II [after 1965]

Isn’t it interesting that “you” KNEEL for ADORATION but don’t find it necessary to do so when RECEING Jesus our GOD.

While receiving Jesus in on’es HAND is now licit and valid it it TAKING Jesus; while receiving on the tongue is RECEIVING Jesus; which do “you” suppose is more pious?
IF you have not personally lived the noe Extraordinary form of the Mass, one cannot comprehend the HUGE differences.
The EF was TOTALLY God centered, Divine Worship; can one say that about the ORDINARY form of the Mass? Which do “you” think was ;IS] more pleasing to God? Amen

Further if everyone CAN [and most DO] take Jesus in their HANDS [TOUCHING GOD]; CAN it really BE GOD?

Thus perpetuating UNBELIEF in the very REAL PResence.
Patrick”
 
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Joe don’t allow your faith and pious ways to be eroded by these type of opinions. It is the individual who must find his love of God and piousness from within. Neither a bell or a gong causes us to worship and glorify God any more or less. Neither sitting, standing, kneeling or laying down affects it either. This comes from the heart, the mind , the soul
 
PJM said:
I’m a Pre Vatican II lifelong Catholics who has lived the POST Vatican II changes:

Just recently I came across this IMO, excellent article that explains the results:

I submit this for your edification:

The Fifty-Year Descent to Footnote 351: Our Progressive Desensitization to the Most Holy Eucharist - OnePeterFive

Let US continue to pray much
Patrick
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I think it’s important that we as catechists and Christians in general dig a little deeper than communion rails.
If we are going to appeal to perverse and misguided philosophies, we need to be sharp as tacks and have deep reasons for Christian faith and orthodoxy.

In my humble opinion, this is article is superficially relevant, but completely inadequate to address our problems.

It seems our seminaries are beginning to address this in a new way.
Maybe a priest could chime in here as to the changes in formation that have come about. As I understand it, the philosophical and theological formation of priests is deeper and more complete than in the past, as it needs to be.
I have no beef with rails, I just think it doesn’t begin to address the real problems of radical atheism and relativism. And apathy.
 
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You still see them in use at conservative (LCMS) Lutheran churches, where they still kneel.
 
Eye of the Tiber website is the Catholic version of The Onion, parody.
 
Yes, while some of their articles do hit pretty close to home, I do not actually view people who kneel for communion as seeking attention. I agree with Patrick that kneeling is probably the most reverent way to receive. I just recently started receiving on the tongue, because I had been receiving on the hand all my life and I thought it would be more reverent because of all the things I touch with my hands, I felt that Jesus deserved more respect. But I also receive standing. My thought was, the whole reason we bow to Jesus as we approach Him is because we are not kneeling. As long as we are acknowledging the presence of Jesus, it is ok.
 
AGoodCatholicBoy said:
I didn’t know the fast applied to drinking water as well? I have sometimes stepped out of Mass to get a quick drink, so should I quit doing this?
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The current communion fast does not include water. One could have a drink of water in the communion line. The current fast is: no food for one hour before communion.

The Pre-Vatican II fast actually did include both food and water. The rule was: no food or water from midnight the previous night until one received communion.
 
JimG said:
The current fast is: no food for one hour before communion.
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One hour before communion, or one hour before Mass? I was told an hour before Mass, but an hour before communion in dire circumstances.
 
The rule is one hour before communion. It’s nearly impossible to break the fast unless you bring food into church with you, since communting time plus Mass time before communion generally comes to about an hour.
 
AGoodCatholicBoy said:
One hour before communion, or one hour before Mass? I was told an hour before Mass, but an hour before communion in dire circumstances.
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Considering the fact that communion is received both inside and outside of Mass, the former (one hour before communion) is the only one which makes sense
 
While I tend to sympathize with many Catholic traditionalists their frequent use of the post hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy has grown tiresome. If it’s not the lack of communion rails that necessarily led to a perceived lack of reverence then it’s communion in the hand. If it’s not CITH then it’s the utilization of Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion. If it’s not the EMHCs then it’s the use of Gothic style chasubles rather than the Fiddlebacks. If not the chasubles then it’s the “girl altar boys”.

So why stop at a dainty communion rail? Bring back the full Rood Screen, I say! Heck, you Latins should start making the altar entirely not-visible like us Byzantines with the use of an Iconostasis! Anything less clearly leads to an irreverent reception of Holy Communion.
 
Hope1960 said:
I’m not a Latin Rite Catholic.
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I wasn’t replying to you specifically. My post was a general reply to the OP. For whatever reason this new interface doesn’t clearly show when posts are meant to be replies to particular individuals.
 
Who is OnePeterFive website ?

Is it a legitimate authority in the Catholic Church ?

My guess it’s not and should not be allowed at CAF.

Jim
 
JimR-OCDS said:
Who is OnePeterFive website ?

Is it a legitimate authority in the Catholic Church ?

My guess it’s not and should not be allowed at CAF.
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It’s a traditionalist blog-turned-media-outlet maintained by a Steve Skojec. Of all the traditionalists rags out there I find 1P5 to be among the more reasonable. More reasonable in that the quality of the writing is typically good and they don’t usually feed the fevered conspiracy laden minds of their readers. I check in from time to time to gain an alternative perspective from Catholic Traddom but I avoid the comments like the plague. The readers there (and sometimes the authors) see Masonic infiltration at every corner of the Catholic Church and they stay but two steps to the left of full blown Sedevacantism.
 
I’m always a little surprised when people ask what are communion rails. Because every parish I’ve ever been a member of, both before and after Vatican II, had communion rails. But I see them mostly as a way of separating the sacred space of the sanctuary from the body of the church. I’ve been in churches without them, but I’ve even seen some churches designed “in the round,” which had communion rails.
 
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