Wow. It's that close

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Our Sunday missalettes (J.S. Paluch) are dated from August 14, 2011 to November 20, 2011. You know what that means? It’s the last missalettes in the old translation. The next set will be in the new translation.
 
Yeah, every Mass I attend, I think to myself, I’ll never hear this particular Mass said this way ever again. So I savor every old translation Mass I attend, which is good.
 
Yes ti will be the last. But imagine the beauty we will see when the change happens? Not to many people can say, “I was alive when…” Well, we will be able to say that! And some who are older than I can say they were alive through Vatican II and then “The New Translation” I think it is awesome.
 
Yeah, every Mass I attend, I think to myself, I’ll never hear this particular Mass said this way ever again. So I savor every old translation Mass I attend, which is good.
Do you really mean that? :confused:

Having read through some of the coming Collects and Prefaces, I am beginning to feel cheated. I wish we could use them now. 😦
 
I wish we were using the correct Mass all these years too. We have been cheated mostly in the English translation. So glad the profession of faith is going back to I not We. My family and I try to always say I.
 
i am getting excited too for the new translation. in our bulletin today i saw they are starting a class in september for those who are wanting to learn more about the new translation. i will definitely sign up because i want to be prepared and informed! 👍
 
I feel particularly sorry for those that remember the Extraordinary Form as being the norm! They’ve had to go through two significant changes so far, with another one coming up!
 
Do you really mean that? :confused:

Having read through some of the coming Collects and Prefaces, I am beginning to feel cheated. I wish we could use them now. 😦
I agree with him. I like the new translation, and I think it will clear up HUMAN issues with Catholic worship, but all masses validly offered are pleasing to God and I reject the notion that the masses under the new translation are going to be any more… er… mass-ish than the masses licitly and validly held under the current translation.

It is not wrong to feel some nostalgia for the way we were brought up. Ask the SSPXers who loved catholic traditionalism so much that they abandoned the church. A little appreciation for our past is not a bad thing and I think this person is handling the transition far better than many EF advocates have handled the transition to the OF (and with far more dignity).
 
I feel particularly sorry for those that remember the Extraordinary Form as being the norm! They’ve had to go through two significant changes so far, with another one coming up!
at this point we are used to changes.
 
I came back to regular Mass attendance only a few years ago, having stopped going when it was still in Latin. (Shame on me for having been gone so long 😦 ) So the present translation is still “new” to me.

I welcome the changes that will bring the Mass more into line with the English translation in our old missals.

I hope that by giving serious study and thought to the new, those who may have become complacent with the meaning of Mass will gain a new appreciation and be able to participate with more spiritual fullness. .
 
at this point we are used to changes.
Yes they are but English is a changing language with changing and expanding meanings so this is to be expected.

People don’t realize it, but there have already been changes to the English text. For example, the ICEL made the Consecration formula this way: “for you and for all men.” This was heavily criticized on two counts, one, that it was sexist, and two, it was a significant change to the formula, placing doubt as to its very validity. So there was a 70’s change to drop the “men,” yet the “for all” remained. And the reason for that is that it changed the theology so much the “all” actually gained quite a few supporters. In fact, it still does. To those people it will be a more difficult change, I imagine, than those who were used to the more-Anglican handmissal translations which themselves had changed since the Church of England initially installed them in the liturgy. OTOH, those who followed the Latin Gloria, Credo, Sanctus, Pater Noster, etc., never had the problem of having to adapt to a new language.
I welcome the changes that will bring the Mass more into line with the English translation in our old missals.

As I’ve stated, these were the more-Anglican translations. Personally I thought some of the other Protestant translations (“debt” instead of “trespasses”, for example) were closer to the Latin.
 
Yes they are but English is a changing language with changing and expanding meanings so this is to be expected.

People don’t realize it, but there have already been changes to the English text. For example, the ICEL made the Consecration formula this way: “for you and for all men.” This was heavily criticized on two counts, one, that it was sexist, and two, it was a significant change to the formula, placing doubt as to its very validity. So there was a 70’s change to drop the “men,” yet the “for all” remained. And the reason for that is that it changed the theology so much the “all” actually gained quite a few supporters. In fact, it still does. To those people it will be a more difficult change, I imagine, than those who were used to the more-Anglican handmissal translations which themselves had changed since the Church of England initially installed them in the liturgy. OTOH, those who followed the Latin Gloria, Credo, Sanctus, Pater Noster, etc., never had the problem of having to adapt to a new language.
There have always been minor changes to the words in the Mass, but the Ordinary Form was a large change, and the new translation is a major change (though not as large as the Ordinary Form first was). Minor changes, such as taking out men, have happened through the Church’s history, but they don’t compare with these changes.

P.S. For those that might think differently: I’m glad these changes are occuring, and I like them very much.
 
Our parish started posting a full page of the bulletin addressing a specific change we’ll undergo at the start of Advent. One priest only has been discussing one change at a time during his daily Mass homilies, along with a lesson from the readings and Gospel. I’m excited and can’t wait!!! I hope we start doing the Gloria, the Sanctus and Agnes Dei all in Latin! Everyone once in a while another of our priests will start the Agnes Dei during daily Mass. Now to get him to start the Sanctus!!! 😃
 
Our local OF priests will only discuss it if you ask a direct question. They are waiting for October for the seminars to occur. Until then it seems to be an unmentionable topic. 😦
 
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