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Milliardo
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The Church doesn’t even believe in online ordination in the first place, so in that itself the “ordination” never really took place as far as the Church is concerned.
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twiztedseraph
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I know, it was a funny thing to do, just ULC now holds you as an “ordained minister”, now if it were done by any other means, a booth on the side of the street, a handshake or anyother easy ordination that was physical, everyone would take it seriously. But simply because its on the net people feel it doesn’t count…I suggest that you do indeed visit a priest.
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scylla
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But ULC is a man made belief system, so it doesn’t count as a valid belief, especially since I don’t take it seriously. I understand your concern, but for any oath to take place it should be done in person, not by correspondence.
This wasn’t an ordination in the first place since it is from an online site, number two if I say I ordain somebody they aren’t really ordained since I have no authority to ordain them, authority is not self imposed it has to come from Jesus to the Apostles down to us. Not just me deciding to ordain somebody. This would just be an oath if anything which people do when they become ministers to different denominations to support a particular belief system.
Now oaths must be done with full consent and intent to fulfill, in person or signed like a marriage.
This online certificate is no more an ordination than me going to a courthouse and getting a divorce ends my marriage. I am still married unless the marriage wasn’t valid to begin with. The courthouse has no authority to end a marriage since marriage is forever.
I don’t know if that is a perfect analogy but it is the best I could do over breakfast.
But, again I will ask my friend the priest and see if I need to confess this.
I still think it is funny, because I don’t take the, believe what you want belief seriously, since it just boils down to self worship, and a denial of truth. Since someone defining their own belief, in reality defines God since they are not submitting their beliefs to truth but to their comfort. Which is what ULC is pretty much that to the extreme.
“Me, God, that’s all that is important” might be a good motto if I took that certificate seriously.
God Bless
Scylla
This wasn’t an ordination in the first place since it is from an online site, number two if I say I ordain somebody they aren’t really ordained since I have no authority to ordain them, authority is not self imposed it has to come from Jesus to the Apostles down to us. Not just me deciding to ordain somebody. This would just be an oath if anything which people do when they become ministers to different denominations to support a particular belief system.
Now oaths must be done with full consent and intent to fulfill, in person or signed like a marriage.
This online certificate is no more an ordination than me going to a courthouse and getting a divorce ends my marriage. I am still married unless the marriage wasn’t valid to begin with. The courthouse has no authority to end a marriage since marriage is forever.
I don’t know if that is a perfect analogy but it is the best I could do over breakfast.
But, again I will ask my friend the priest and see if I need to confess this.
I still think it is funny, because I don’t take the, believe what you want belief seriously, since it just boils down to self worship, and a denial of truth. Since someone defining their own belief, in reality defines God since they are not submitting their beliefs to truth but to their comfort. Which is what ULC is pretty much that to the extreme.
“Me, God, that’s all that is important” might be a good motto if I took that certificate seriously.
God Bless
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a_cermak
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This seems to have become a popular thing for couples to do for their wedding–to have someone dear to them get ordained and then be able to officiate their wedding. There have been some articles in the local papers about it.
Seems that many people today aren’t from Church-going families and would rather not have a stranger involved in their wedding.
So you can laugh at the Ordination Factories, but they do seem to serve a purpose.
Seems that many people today aren’t from Church-going families and would rather not have a stranger involved in their wedding.
So you can laugh at the Ordination Factories, but they do seem to serve a purpose.
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Eileen_T
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We had a married couple who started their own church. As far as I know it was an original version. They had a very large extended family who were sort of generic Christians. Anyway, the woman/matriarch must have read about tithing and though it was a good idea, probably from LDS missionaries.
A woman I knew was taken there by a cousin who belonged to the congregation, when she was finding her way back to God. She described it as “happy clappy” and it felt wrong to her so she talked it over with an aunt and came home to the CC.
The “Church” services were pretty strong on singing, preaching and praise. The other thing they were strong on was that everyone had to tithe.
Now we have another Church that has sprung up out of nowhere and it has the same tithing policy. (The founding pastor is now a bishop. The title was formally bestowed on him at the 7th anniversary celebrations in July 2005.
In October 2004, this pastor, who is now quite wealthy, said “Well, the Bible doesn’t call you to be poor. I mean, why would I want to be a Christian if it says you’re going to be poor and poverty stricken?”
Cheesh . . . who needs apostolic succession?
A woman I knew was taken there by a cousin who belonged to the congregation, when she was finding her way back to God. She described it as “happy clappy” and it felt wrong to her so she talked it over with an aunt and came home to the CC.
The “Church” services were pretty strong on singing, preaching and praise. The other thing they were strong on was that everyone had to tithe.
Now we have another Church that has sprung up out of nowhere and it has the same tithing policy. (The founding pastor is now a bishop. The title was formally bestowed on him at the 7th anniversary celebrations in July 2005.
In October 2004, this pastor, who is now quite wealthy, said “Well, the Bible doesn’t call you to be poor. I mean, why would I want to be a Christian if it says you’re going to be poor and poverty stricken?”
Cheesh . . . who needs apostolic succession?
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