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There are plenty of predictions that come true. That does not make them God’s Word. There are market specialists that can tell what the indices will do, and the mortgage rates. That does not make them theopneustos.
The only reason you know they were eyewitnesses and disciples is because of Sacred Tradition.
No, but it is a strong arguement.
For some reason you seem to think that Catholics don’t revere the scripture. The fact that we do not try to force it into a role it is not intended to play does not mean we do not believe these (above) things about Scripture.
Yes, you have, but it is a useless arguement. For one thing, there is no support for this from scripture. For another, the various "applications " (we read interpretations) are CONTRARY AND MUTULLY EXCLUSIVE of each other.
Yes, I have wondered if it is necessary to settle such disputes, and come to the conclusion that it most certainly is. Not all of them can be correct. Especially since the disciples of the Apostles taught that some of the “applications” (we read interpreatations) are heretical.
Basically what you are saying here is that God is to weak or disinterested to preserve His Word in the hearts of those He has called to preserve it, and where He has divinely placed it.
Maybe you have not noticed, but it happens every day around here!
It is not mentioned that Jesus or any of the Apostles every engaged in the elimination of bodily waste, either. Does that mean it didn’t happen? Besides, there are numerous examples of them worshipping Jesus.
Well, I guess we read it differently, don’t we? Who will settle our difference? Or do you wish to claim that it does not need to be settled?
Is it your contention that the Gospels were written at the time? Do you believe that the four Gospels “mention” everything that is essential to our salvation?
The yoke of Jesus is easy, and His burden light. If one thinks that he can accept the yoke of Christ, yet reject His mother, then one has a very distorted perception of the gospel message.
This seems to me like demanding “show me that the stars of heaven exist, but you cannot do so unless the sun is at it’s zenith in the sky”. You purport you wish to be pursuaded about something, but you eliminate the primary sources of evidence that exist. One has to wonder if your challenge is really serious. How might it affect your faith if you had to accept that Sacred Tradition is real?
A. Could you provide a NT verse that promotes a priesthood as understood by the CC?Because unless you can provide a Scripture verse about the priesthood being abolished by Christ you’ve believed something that you’ve only heard from some fallible preacher.
A. Is is the duty of a priest to offer sacrifice. As the Holy Eucharist is a sacrifice, it is necessary for a priesthood to offer the sacrifice, and the instruction for this was not given to all of the followers of Jesus, but the Apostles alone, on at the Last Supper.
Priest and elder are not the same thing. There is a Greek word for priest. There is a Greek word for elder. They are not the same word and they certainly do not have the same function according to the Bible. If we want to look at what the Bible teaches about the universal priesthood, we have to keep our words straight.
The Greek word for “elder” is “prebyteroi” which is the root for “priest” There is no distinction.
It is the root for priest. It is the root for Presbyterian and other words as well. It is not the same thing. Attaching a meaning to a word because a translation of that word has a similiar baseword is not going to fly.
You are dodging. Elders are priests. No matter what English word is used, Elders in the NT (prebyteroi) had the function of the Priests in Christianity. Misunderstandings such as this are understandable when you rly upon your own understanding and remove the Scriptures from the liturgical context that is required to interpret them accurately.
Elders are not priests. Elders are presbuteros. Priests are hiereus. The English word is how people are attempting to make a distinction that does not exist in Greek.
Again you set up straw men. Your issue is with translation. What is called a “priest” in the Catholic Church is the exact same ministerial role (to assist the bishops) as the Elder in the NT Church! IT IS IRRELEVANT WHICH WORD WE USE. What you need to examine is the ministry. The elders are modern day priests.
I asked for verses, not opinion.
I told you. There are three accounts of the last suppper, which institutes the Sacrament of Holy Orders, of which priests are part of.
Those verses you speak of, do they mention specifically ‘priests’ or are you basing your statements on ST?
Ah fundamentalism. It is the opposite extreme of modernism, yet both insist on separating Scripture from its proper environment.
Jesus spoke Aramaic,not Greek. Greek was used as the language to pen the NT because it was the lengua franca,which is what many forget. Bishops is synonymous with elders;hence they are priests.
Explain to me specifically why your first sentence is germane. Jesus never described the New Testament office of elder so you need to elaborate.
There are connatations with the word priest because of using a different word than what Christ and the Apostles did. If the Apostles used one word to describe the New Testament office but not another, the connatations of using the incorrect word have to be dealt with.
Everything boils down to your own interpretations and opinion of Scripture then?