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720joeG
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So then whats wrong with moderate use of marijuana?
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travissbeloved
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Because there’s no such thing as moderate use of marijuana. (And I say this as a former marijuana user) You are either high or not high. You can drink without getting drunk.
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720joeG
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No they are not. I live in Colorado where it is legal. It’s treated like alcohol. You must be 21, cant do it while driving, (you can get a DUI) need a special license to sell it, cant use it in public. I think this is all good. I seriously doubt that they will legalize it to that extent of using it all the time. And yes you can moderate it, especially with the eatables and drinks that they sell, now you are not even doing the harm to your lungs of smoking it and only having one of these eatable will not impair you as close to one of 2 beers.
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720joeG
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Completely disagree. You can be a little high, and then be EXTREMELY high, just like you can be a little tipsy and completely drunk. Especially if you choose to eat marijuana instead of smoke it. Then you don’t even have the harm to your lungs from smoking.
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phil19034
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Where legal, it would still be a sin, but not a mortal one, unless you did things you should not while under the influence (like booze)I live in Colorado. It is no longer a crime. I do agree that no Christian should break civil law and that is a sin, but civil law says its legal now.
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720joeG
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That is exactly what I think, it must be venial. But all venial sin can indeed lead to mortal sin especially if you were to smoke and drive or operate heavy machinery.
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fastenatingguy
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Civil law says that homosexual marriage is ok too.I live in Colorado. It is no longer a crime. I do agree that no Christian should break civil law and that is a sin, but civil law says its legal now.
We are quite capable at making bad law.
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720joeG
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phil19034
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When it’s illegal you are committing scandal and contributing to others regarding scandal.
When it’s legal, you are not committing scandal. But it still a sin, but most likely a Venial one (like smoking tobbaco).
But unlike tobbaco (which you really don’t get high off of), smoking weed can quickly get you high. In that case, you will be committing the sin of smoking plus the sin of Intemperance. So even if venial, when smoking pot, you can quickly be committing two sins at the same time (as most people do get high). Eating weed only (no smoking), would be on par with alcohol.
Then, if you do something like drive while high, you’re committing a moral sin.
Drugs… very complicated… that’s why it’s must easier to just say no.
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720joeG
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Completely agree, but you can compare alcohol and marijuana use to sexual morality. When marijuana was first illegalized it was because of yellow journalism and racism.
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travissbeloved
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And I counter disagree, lol. I was quite the drug user in my early, stupid years and I could take one toke and be flying high. It all depended on what kind of marijuana it was. (good quality vs bad quality). And now with it being legal in a few states a lot of people grow the medical kind which is VERY potent.
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720joeG
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You do get high off nicotine, and nicotine is much more harmful to your health than marijuana, though the high doesn’t last as long.When it’s illegal you are committing scandal and contributing to others regarding scandal.
When it’s legal, you are not committing scandal. But it still a sin, but most likely a Venial one (like smoking tobbaco).
But unlike tobbaco (which you really don’t get high off of), smoking weed can quickly get you high. In that case, you will be committing the sin of smoking plus the sin of Intemperance. So even if venial, when smoking pot, you can quickly be committing two sins at the same time (as most people do get high). Eating weed only (no smoking), would be on part with alcohol.
Then, if you do something like drive while high, you’re committing a moral sin.
Drugs… very complicated… that’s why it’s must easier to just say no.
I can see what you are saying. But what I’m saying is why is me smoking a bowl to relax after a hard day is looked down upon when we have parties at the Church where everyone gets completely plastered, Priest, Deacons, and the rest of the parish. But then if I want to smoke weed instead of drink (which is less harmful) that is more wrong.
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720joeG
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They sell now what they call “3.2 weed”. Which is suppose be like 3.2 alcohol that isn’t suppose get you that high at all. How is stronger weed suppose to be any worse than taking shots? I have taking many shots at my church for various events. How can you take shots and not get plastered?
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720joeG
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I didn’t. What I am saying is that marijuana is a safer choice.You can’t say alcohol is bad and marijuana is good.
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VeritasLuxMea
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Where there is a legal issue, then that is a difference. Otherwise, I don’t see the difference. Alcohol can be more dangerous, in fact, in the sense that taking enough of it can kill you immediately, whereas you simply cannot overdose on THC.
Otherwise, the issues are basically the same:
Are you taking enough of any drug (be it THC, alcohol, caffeine, whatever) that you have knowingly placed your mind in a situation where you are excessively vulnerable to sin?
Are your taking enough of any drug, then acting in any way that would endanger others? E.g., driving after drinking 10 pots of coffee, a case of beers or smoking 3 joints?
Are you taking enough of any drug that it is threatening your body?
Stuff that is completely irrelevant:
What drugs Jesus did/didn’t use on Earth.
Otherwise, the issues are basically the same:
Are you taking enough of any drug (be it THC, alcohol, caffeine, whatever) that you have knowingly placed your mind in a situation where you are excessively vulnerable to sin?
Are your taking enough of any drug, then acting in any way that would endanger others? E.g., driving after drinking 10 pots of coffee, a case of beers or smoking 3 joints?
Are you taking enough of any drug that it is threatening your body?
Stuff that is completely irrelevant:
What drugs Jesus did/didn’t use on Earth.
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travissbeloved
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I can take 1 shot and not get plastered…just saying
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Buck_Crosswhite
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Alcohol is not immoral, but marijuana is immoral. Alcohol can be used in an immoral manner, but not everyone who takes a drink is trying to get drunk. However, everyone who smokes a joint is trying to get stoned. There’s the difference. Marijuana is an evil thing to use and alcohol isn’t.
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VeritasLuxMea
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These people that drink but do not want it to alter their brain in any way (“get drunk” as you put it), what are they drinking for?
Any citations to show that everyone who ingests THC is only doing it “to get stoned”?
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720joeG
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I completely agree with you. THC is not nearly as deadly as alcohol, but it should be used in moderation like alcohol or any other legal substance.
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720joeG
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My question to you is how is a substance like alcohol that has the ability to instantly kill you in an overdose not immoral, yet a substance like THC which is scientifically proven impossible to overdose on and not to kill you immoral?
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