You know you're a Traditional Catholic when

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At_Trent said:
You are at a OF mass and you keep saying “et cum spiritu tuo” no matter how hard you try to remember to say "and also with you "
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I know What you mean or I tend to auto-translate “et cum spiritu tuo” to “and with your spirit” and “dignum et justum est” to “it is right and just”, I can’t help myself sometimes.
It’s when Fr. sings the Preface and Canon that the Latin starts, then there is no stopping me then!

You know you’re a Traditional Catholic when…

You do a google search and think St. Anthony would have been quicker.

You know that “summorum pontificum” and “Universae Ecclesiae” are required reading.

And you nearly have an aneurysm and may require restraint and/or confession when someone starts prattling on about the EF Mass being the one where the priest mumbles in a dead language with his back to you.
when is an occasion
 
Rawb said:
Oh I didn’t notice this. Yeah, there are only two calendars, the Old and the New in Eastern Orthodoxy. Not too hard.

The Armenians are Oriental Orthodox, so I have no clue what their calendar situation may be like.
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They follow both (Armenians in Israel follow the Old), but they celebrate Christmas on its original day - Jan. 6th and 18/19 respectively.

Alex
 
Acolythus_sum said:
He changed them?
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Yes, based on advice from Abp. Bugnini. Actually, just kidding, no. As you probably know, there are no “official, original” Stations of the Cross, but rather various versions composed my miscellaneous authors, of which the most popular has traditionally been the Liguori version. Even Liguori’s stations are of comparatively recent vintage, dating to around the middle of the eighteenth century. Anyway, the late Holy Father was accustomed to praying the Stations of the Cross every Friday throughout the year, and every day in Lent. Due to his deep devotion to the Stations, on Good Friday 1991 he offered an alternative method of praying them that focused on the events of Jesus’ passion which are recorded in Scripture. You can read them here.
 
Once, during the pledge of allegiance at school, instead of putting my hand over my heart, I did the sign of the cross. My teacher saw me do it and laughed.
 
Rawb said:
Oh I didn’t notice this. Yeah, there are only two calendars, the Old and the New in Eastern Orthodoxy. Not too hard.

The Armenians are Oriental Orthodox, so I have no clue what their calendar situation may be like.
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The Church Calendar consists of a series of cycles by which feasts are celebrated in the Orthodox Church. There are currently three calendars in use in the Church, the Julian Calendar (“Old Calendar”), Revised Julian Calendar (“New Calendar”), and Gregorian Calendar (“New Calendar”).
A number of churches also have some parishes and dioceses which are on a different calendar than their respective primates, most especially the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople in the diaspora.

orthodoxwiki.org
 
vz71 said:
With a measure of pride for my children…

We went to Mass at a different parish this weekend as we were traveling.

After the priest had concluded the Mass and everyone was filing out, this exchange took place…
Son - “Where’s the Tabenacle?”
Me - “Don’t know.”
Son - “Well I’m not leaving this pew until I know where I should genuflect to.”
Me (beaming with pride) - “There’s the usher, find out.”

Turns out the Tabernacle was placed in a side room cut off from the rest of the church.
And my kids, not I, made certain we did not genuflect to an empty space.

The youngest then decided we needed to search out the Tabernacle and genuflect there before leaving.
We did.

🙂
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I find your posting confusing – is it criticism of the Blessed Sacrament tabernacle not being in the main sanctuary of the church, where in a monstrance the Host is exposed for public adoration during times outside Holy Mass?
Traditional Catholic churches have The Blessed Sacrament Chapel.
“Only those who wish to pray may enter”. This sign is found in front of the Blessed Sacrament Chapel in St Peter’s Basilica in Rome and lets visitors know that this is a place for reflection, and not just part of a tour of the basilica.
Here the Blessed Sacrament is exposed for adoration so as prayer and meditation will not be disturbed.
 
Invictus_88 said:
You know you’re a traditional Catholic when you…have a hostile and uncharitable attitude toward the clergy that is unpleasant, divisive, and slanderous?

Well, folks. You heard it here first!
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One of the miracles of the Catholic Church is despite factional in-house fighting it manages to survive.
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You know you’re a Traditional Catholic when above doors you have images of Our Blessed Lady.
 
KEVIN_WILCOX said:
One of the miracles of the Catholic Church is despite factional in-house fighting it manages to survive.
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That’s no more of a defence of your divisive slander than the Church surviving child abuse scandals is a defence of child abuse or the Church surviving the Protestant Reformation is a defence of Protestant Reforming.

A Catholic - “trad” or otherwise - ought really to be for the Church rather than against it.
 
KEVIN_WILCOX said:
I find your posting confusing – is it criticism of the Blessed Sacrament tabernacle not being in the main sanctuary of the church, where in a monstrance the Host is exposed for public adoration during times outside Holy Mass?
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Not at all.
It is a statement that a traditional catholic knows what genuflecting is and why.
They do not simply follow the ritual and blindly genuflect to an empty space but instead discern where the precious Body is kept and act accordingly.

And it was also a statement that I am deeply humbled that it was my children that led this.

A Traditional Catholic is not defined by attendence of the TLM, the proper clothes, or the rituals.
A Traditional Catholic is one that knows and understands the traditions before them. That follows these traditions to the best of their ability, that teaches these traditions to others as the opportunity arises (spreads the word), and (perhaps hardest of all) submits to the authority of the church even when they do not understand why or even want to do it.

It is what all Catholics should be.
 
vz71 said:
Not at all.
It is a statement that a traditional catholic knows what genuflecting is and why.
They do not simply follow the ritual and blindly genuflect to an empty space but instead discern where the precious Body is kept and act accordingly.

And it was also a statement that I am deeply humbled that it was my children that led this.

A Traditional Catholic is not defined by attendence of the TLM, the proper clothes, or the rituals.
A Traditional Catholic is one that knows and understands the traditions before them. That follows these traditions to the best of their ability, that teaches these traditions to others as the opportunity arises (spreads the word), and (perhaps hardest of all) submits to the authority of the church even when they do not understand why or even want to do it.

It is what all Catholics should be.
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Well said, and thank you!
Our church is being remodeled and in the interim, our Mass is said in the parish hall. The tabernacle is in a large walk in closet where the priest prepares for Mass. I see many Catholics come into the hall and genuflect toward the table that serves as the altar, and know they do not understand why they are bending the knee.
 
Invictus_88 said:
That’s no more of a defence of your divisive slander than the Church surviving child abuse scandals is a defence of child abuse or the Church surviving the Protestant Reformation is a defence of Protestant Reforming.

A Catholic - “trad” or otherwise - ought really to be for the Church rather than against it.
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The Pope, the Holy Father laments the current state of the Church.
Fact - The Church is divided.
 
vz71

I find your comments commendable, the child’s attitude admirable!
It’s good to see the flame of allegiance burning so brightly, and a child carrying the torch lighting our future, giving us hope.
 
KEVIN_WILCOX said:
The Pope, the Holy Father laments the current state of the Church.
Fact - The Church is divided.
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Correction…the people within the church are divided.
KEVIN_WILCOX said:
vz71

I find your comments commendable, the child’s attitude admirable!
It’s good to see the flame of allegiance burning so brightly, and a child carrying the torch lighting our future, giving us hope.
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Thank you very much.
 
vz71 said:
Correction…the people within the church are divided.
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Sounds good, but taking this concept a step further leads to the heresy of ecumenism.
Let me explain, perhaps it’s taking this thread off at a tangent, I’ll be brief.

A Church Divided Against Itself
youtube.com/watch?v=_hGxyz6r5PY

Matthew 16:18. “Upon this rock I will build my church and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.”

‘Where there are sins there is multiplicity, divisions, erroneous teachings and discord. But where there is virtue, there is oneness, union; thus all believers were ‘of one heart and one soul’. (Origen, In Ez. hom. 9) Framed by the walls of the Catholic Church the number of dissident Catholic groups claiming to represent the true teachings of the Church continues to grow. Infallible dogma is to be found in the Great Tradition - that of the apostles and of the fathers of the Church. Many have gone astray.

“‘All religions are more or less good and praiseworthy, inasmuch as all give expression, under various forms, to that innate sense which leads men to God and to the obedient acknowledgment of his rule.’
Those who hold such a view are not only in error; they distort the true idea of religion, and thus reject it, falling gradually into naturalism and atheism. To favor this opinion, therefore, and to encourage such undertakings, is tantamount to abandoning the religion revealed by God." (Pope Pius XI’s 1928 encyclical on fostering true religious unity, Mortalium Animos, On Religious Unity).

Catholicism is the one true religion, to which separated Christians will simply have to return if ever unity is to be restored.

(You can find more on this CAF 2008 “Ecumenism is a Protestant heresy”)
 
When you fold your hands in prayer during the Lord’s prayer instead of imitating the priest
 
You know you’re a traditional Catholic when…

You actually take off the Rosary on the rear-view mirror and pray the Rosary.
 
Yours_Truly said:
I don’t mean to be too serious in a thread that I realize was started for fun; but…🙂

Being a Traditional Catholic is more than a preference for certain traditional devotions, or even for the Traditional Mass. Being a Traditional Catholics means thinking as the Church has always thought. In other words, being a Traditional Catholic means having the real faith with no admixture of liberalism or modernism which are the errors of our day.

So, how do you know if you are a Traditional Catholic? The answer is simple. You know *for sure *that you are a Traditional Catholic when you can read the pre-Vatican II papal emcyclicals that disucss Liberalism and modernism and find them to be a joy, and an expression of exactly what you still believe. That is how you and I can know if we are Traditional Catholics.

What are some of these enyclicals?

1.) Mortalium Animos, Pius XI

2.) Libertas, Leo XIII

3.) Quanta Cura, Pius IX

4.) Humani Generis, Pius XII

5.) Mirari Vos, Gregory XVI

6.) Pascendi, Pius X

7.) Satis Gognitum, Leo XIII

These are some of the pre-Vatican II encyclicals that condemned many of the modern errors we have today. If you read these enyclicals and think to yourself - YES! 👍 - as you are reading them, then you know you are a Traditional Catholic.

An even better test (since it is more concise) is to read the book Liberalism is a Sin. This books does a very good job in explaining the subtle errors of Liberalism. It is a book that the Liberals of the day hated, and the Pope and Holy Office praised.
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Well, I’m pegged out as a Traditional Catholic then I suppose. 😛
 
You get upset because the “ladies” bicycle you were given is only for non-skirt wearing ladies…
 
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