Young Earth v. Old Earth

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wildleafblower said:
Quite honestly, I have reservations promoting Kenneth Miller’s book Finding Darwins God to Catholics, and I admit that I am rather disturbed now by the fact that he testified in the Dover trial since he didn’t, in my opinion, really portray what Catholics are taught as is the example above about orginal sin. I’m still wondering who was the person or person(s) that had him and Haught testify in the trial. Anybody got the answer?

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Wildleafblower
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That was very good, Wildeafblower, thank you. I admire your stance here by putting your faith first and being guided by the Magisterium.

Mr. Miller’s teaching on original sin is not accurate and he skates on very thin ice of materialist philosophy and doctrinal error.
 
reggieM said:
That was very good, Wildeafblower, thank you. I admire your stance here by putting your faith first and being guided by the Magisterium.
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People in the RCC put their faith first and were guided by the Magisterium when Galileo was persicuted for the heresy of promoting heliocentrism counter to the RCC teaching of geocentrism.

As we gain information some Church teachings must change.
 
Namesake said:
People in the RCC put their faith first and were guided by the Magisterium when Galileo was persicuted for the heresy of promoting heliocentrism counter to the RCC teaching of geocentrism.
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Geocentrism was not a magisterial teaching, nor is heliocentrism today. So you’re not correct about that.
As we gain information some Church teachings must change.
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What new information have you discovered about the requirements for salvation, the remission of sins and the worship which is most pleasing to God?

We should indeed, put our trust in the sacred Magisterium because that is the certain path for us to follow towards God and eternal life.
 
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wildleafblower:
Can you tell me what Ken Miller says about original sin, and why it is wrong? I visited with him in Pasadena a few weeks ago, and would like to have known about objections to his theology.

StAnastasia
 
reggieM said:
Geocentrism was not a magisterial teaching, nor is heliocentrism today. So you’re not correct about that.
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Seems that there is a separate history for Catholics.

Galileo was persecuted because he would not quit espousing heliocentrism. The RCC at the time was rigidly demanding a geocentrist view of the cosmos.

The RCC changed it’s position. Galileo was correct and the RCC was wrong. The Church has issued an apology for what was done to Galileo. The Church admitted wrong doing.

The whole matter was about geocentrism vs heliocentrism. The teaching of the Church was that the Earth was central in God’s creation. Clearly it is not. The Earth is a small planet moving about a small star in a small galaxy in a remote corner of the universe. The RCC didn’t like the implications of those facts, but the facts had to be accepted based on evidence.

The point is that as science adds information the Church must change. To do otherwise would be foolishly anachronistic.
 
Namesake said:
People in the RCC put their faith first and were guided by the Magisterium when Galileo was persicuted for the heresy of promoting heliocentrism counter to the RCC teaching of geocentrism.

As we gain information some Church teachings must change.
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“must change” ? Based on what?

Galileo’s theory was not readily accepted by the scientists of his day. Certain things about it simply could not be proved. But he insisted on running around and proclaiming he was right. The Church cautioned him but he kept right on, until finally, through his own efforts, he was placed under house arrest.

Please gain the needed information and facts (this was written down) before arguing for change.

Peace,
Ed
 
Namesake said:
Seems that there is a separate history for Catholics.

Galileo was persecuted because he would not quit espousing heliocentrism. The RCC at the time was rigidly demanding a geocentrist view of the cosmos.

The RCC changed it’s position. Galileo was correct and the RCC was wrong. The Church has issued an apology for what was done to Galileo. The Church admitted wrong doing.

The whole matter was about geocentrism vs heliocentrism. The teaching of the Church was that the Earth was central in God’s creation. Clearly it is not. The Earth is a small planet moving about a small star in a small galaxy in a remote corner of the universe. The RCC didn’t like the implications of those facts, but the facts had to be accepted based on evidence.

The point is that as science adds information the Church must change. To do otherwise would be foolishly anachronistic.
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Please see this article from the Library of this web site:

catholic.com/library/galileo_controversy.asp

Peace,
Ed
 
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