Young Hispanics Leaving Catholic Church for Protestant Faith

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Maybe we need to beat the protestants at their own game…couldn’t parishes hold services one evening a week in the Evangelical/Perntacostal style…maybe in the parish hall…especially for young Catholics and get them to encourage their protestant friends along…you could have bands singing modern christian music and praise worship…a dynamic speaker who could give a Christ centered sermon from the Bible and the early church teachings…showing how the Catholic Church is the true church founded by Jesus Christ…I am a former Pentacostal and much of this is how they draw people to their church…it’s alive…people are singing… praising… and worshiping God…and preaching the gospel…and they make you feel welcome…couldn’t we try this…and anyone who showed an interest in the church would then be encouraged to attend a Mass and see how Christ is truly present.
 
I agree. They painted themselves into a corner, maybe going all the way back to Bush I. I think it was Donald Trump himself who said the reason why the Republicans won’t support too many immigration reforms is because they know it will add up to 11 million votes for the Democrats immediately.

And don’t forget that Asian vote.
At least in California, much of the blame can be laid on Pete Wilson’s disastrous handling of Prop 187.

Interesting how many of the people who started this are about as pro-life as Kathleen Sebelius.
 
At least in California, much of the blame can be laid on Pete Wilson’s disastrous handling of Prop 187.

Interesting how many of the people who started this are about as pro-life as Kathleen Sebelius.
Well, when their friends are getting deported and/or denied citizenship (meaning the right-to-vote), I don’t think it’s surprising to know which party they will be turning to, just for survival. Just saying.
 
Young Latinos are joining Protestant, especially evangelical, churches for a variety of reasons. According to an NPR report, young Protestant Latinos prefer the more boisterous, musical services and less structured environment to more rigid Catholic masses.

One young man told NPR he wanted a personal relationship with God instead of having to rely on a priest as an intermediary.

Protestant churches have also done a good job of reaching out to Latino youth, particularly from poverty- and gang-ridden neighborhoods. They offer youth groups, bilingual services in English and Spanish, social activities and a place to hang out.

One line of the NPR report is telling. It says of one young man, “[H]e made friends first, and then got religion.” Many Protestant churches have accepted that path, but some young Latinos don’t see that as an option in the Catholic church.

Catholics have an established and successful tradition of helping the poor and caring for the sick and elderly, but some young people also view the faith as anti-gay and intolerant. Younger Hispanics, like other demographics, are more likely to be liberal than older generations and are more likely to chafe at the Catholic Church’s conservative stances on issues like abortion and gay marriage.

abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/Politics/young-hispanics-leaving-catholic-church-protestant-faith/story?id=18598257#.UVQ-6RfZ60s

My understanding it that evangelical protestants also oppose abortion and gay marriage, so that cannot be why these religious young people are leaving the Catholic Church.

The protestant evangelical revival style of worship is a powerful force. We need to counter it with an equally powerful response. Liturgies in the style of the Misa Criolla could make a big difference.
I think I understand these young Latinos well.

I could have gone to a Evangelical Protestant church run by a black pastor. He courted me persuasively to join, and to rebuild me into something impressive under his mentoring. The product his pupil became was attractive and respectable, so, it was appealing.

I stayed with the Virgin Mary even if it meant carrying much further a walk with the wounds of Christ. So, I did not join the Protestant church nor receive possible resurrection and freedom.

Within a tiny sector (maybe 1% or 2%) of Catholicism I’m regarded in similar ways that Protestant pastor saw me (a possible soldier of Christ). But within most of Catholicism I’m am a despised leper. Fact. Ground of reality.

I don’t think religion–or Catholicism–ought become a commercialized marketing product. I don’t think entertainment (although I liked your video example and have no beef with that) is what “spirituality” should be all about. That’s not how the Buddhist or Muslims go about worship anyways.

The Cambodian male called “Monk B” in the video (although Buddhist) speaks and laughs just like many young Black-American males, using some of the same phrases. I could have been like many of them thrown in prison (and if by circumstance of birth deported too), but for the grace of God. The Latino gang member.

To me I would approach the young Latino males not with a bible but with a pair of boxing gloves. He can begin his gospel lessons doing pushups and curling dumbbells.

That’s not going to retain or convert all. There is no one way or one path for all.

Some Asian-Americans like the Hmong are Catholics often times too. I’m not sure about the Cambodians.

Video of young Cambodians influenced by Hip Hop and American urban streets, violence, and crime:
  1. youtube.com/watch?v=amlu9Uhy-cU
  2. youtube.com/watch?v=a86S45mL_Ug
Video 2 is very sad–to hear that mother plead. But these young Latinos converting to the Evangelical salvation of the Protestant faiths understand like me that the world is heartless and cruel. And the world is predator vs prey.

But I’m not a practicing Catholic, so, I wish all well on whatever their path be they Buddhist, Muslim, or Protestant. Better to land on your feet than not at all. And what is for one may not be for another.
 
Amen. Good point. They might never come back. And those who ask them to leave or who push them away now, might have to answer later.
Who’s asking anyone to leave or pushing anyone away? Those individuals are making their own choices because they don’t want to follow the Church’s teachings. News alert: No one ever promised them that being a Catholic was going to be easy. If they feel their faith is worth practicing, there are plenty of support and resources in the Church who can help them on their spiritual journey. The Church doesn’t have to change to suite everyone’s individual "needs’. It is not a democracy where the lay people get to vote on how things are done. That’s just part of a “me” attitude. We, as Catholics, are called to submit to God and his One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.
 
In the US at least, there is an ongoing movement of people switching from one church to another. Protestants turning Catholic, Catholics leaving and becoming Protestant. It is all in flux. Not like the 1950’s is it?
 
Maybe we need to beat the protestants at their own game…couldn’t parishes hold services one evening a week in the Evangelical/Perntacostal style…maybe in the parish hall…especially for young Catholics and get them to encourage their protestant friends along…you could have bands singing modern christian music and praise worship…a dynamic speaker who could give a Christ centered sermon from the Bible and the early church teachings…showing how the Catholic Church is the true church founded by Jesus Christ…I am a former Pentacostal and much of this is how they draw people to their church…it’s alive…people are singing… praising… and worshiping God…and preaching the gospel…and they make you feel welcome…couldn’t we try this…and anyone who showed an interest in the church would then be encouraged to attend a Mass and see how Christ is truly present.
Maybe we could offer them free beer, too? (sorry - the devil made me do it!)

But seriously, the attraction to the Church is the Deposit of Faith - the living Tradition - the sacraments offering a sharing in the life of Christ - the sense of the Sacred - the invitation to that which is Real - an awakening to that which is transcendental - the grace surrounding the mystical dimension of worship…

…I guess these kinds of things just don’t attract a secular, self-centered world.

PS - The Catholic Church is alive, too… with the Real Presence…is it not enough?
 
I come from a Hispanic family on my dad’s side, and I can attest that this is a real problem. The older generation is still Catholic, but most of the younger generation went away from it and are agnostic to atheist. I can’t speculate as to why, but I can say that a strong example from my parents and always going to Mass together has kept me in the Church. I pray for them constantly; it is sad to see how my family has lost their faith and probably related to this has become more fractured.
On a philosophy website I got into a disagreement with another member about the individual vs society and environment.

Basically, he took the position the individual trumps society and environment and is self made.

My position came more from an intro sociology course (and some of my own observations). I argued that relative to an individuals community or society the individual means nothing. Basically, society and environment shape the individual.

As an example an case in point I pointed out that in general ethnic Black-Americans speak English and grow up playing basketball and not soccer. Whereas in Brazil those black and brown speak Portuguese and grow up playing soccer.

So, I asked if he could explain why that is so if his proposition is that human individuals are a walled island from their environment?

I also stated to him that if his proposition were correct then we would expect to see (to use phrase from science when attempting to solve a life problem and bring resolution to a case under study) feral children, absent of all human acquaintances, self develop into physicists, chemists, or engineers.

But we don’t.

To me it is no mystery why young Catholic Latinos to the U.S. leave. While I will acknowledge there are probably multiple layers to the issue and therefore more than one reason, a large reason ultimately has to do with most human beings being followers, and how most humans reason. That along with wanting to fit in.

Forget the terms Catholic and Protestant. Let’s imagine two different terms. Will call them Bumpy and Hairy.

The Bumpy people come from a land called Waldy and the Hairy people live in a land called Barry. Waldy is a much more economically impoverished nation than Barry. And in Fact Barry is said to be the richest nation on earth. The Bumpy people that move the Barry begin to think and reason one day, “Hmm… the Hairy people must know something right if they are so much richer than we are, God must have blessed and enlightened them.”

The Bumpy people also want to fit in with the culture of the Hairy.

There is another issue though, in my opinion, in terms of the Latino gang banger etc. American Catholicism both conservative and liberal have no answer, no solution, in fact has no idea what these young men face. Both live in fiction land.

Mexican Catholicism seems to comprehend the problem in more real, blood, tears, and flesh, bone, and mind ways. Perhaps, because the Mexican Church has no choice but to be sitting immersed in the violence.

American Catholicism often sits back from a distance pondering the problem from a distance. The issue of young Latino boys and men becoming gang bangers is not simply one of “just young men gone astray.”

I think I understand the Latino male in the inner-city well. Perhaps. Life is complicated and I can’t know or connect to every individuals struggles and curses. However, in a general sense, for many if not most, I think I kind of “get it.”

I would give the young Latino male a pair of boxing gloves. It couldn’t hurt if they (the young Latino males) began dressing a little more like the Evangelical Protestant ministers, of community social standing, in suit, tie, and cufflinks.

At base… the young Latino male wants security, enrichment, a woman and prosperity. Currently, American Catholicism has no resolution to this problem for them.

But even if the American Church could bring resolution to those questions and problems some would leave anyways. The Evangelicals get their narrative about who they are out better than Catholicism. And Catholicism is often bogged down being attacked from all fronts, from every side, and the narrative most people hear (including the Bumpy people from the land of Waldy) of who Catholicism is… is that narrative constructed and explained through the enemies of Catholicism. Catholicism for a while now has responded primarily by playing the role of the bowing Chinese man, always with hands folded, head down, apologizing.

To the credit of the Evangelicals though, you must admit they do an impressive job of transforming some young men. Kind of like the Nation of Islam.
 
Well, when their friends are getting deported and/or denied citizenship (meaning the right-to-vote), I don’t think it’s surprising to know which party they will be turning to, just for survival. Just saying.
Which is what I said. Which is morbidly ironic given the origins of the modern concerns of illegal immigration. Google Taunton and Planned Parenthood.
 
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