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sedonaman
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Where did you see that in the Home Depot case?
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Dale_M
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jilly4ski
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My summer employer one year stopped giving me hours on August because I took Sundays off, the summer before I went to college. They didn’t have a scheduling block on Sunday that did not conflict with Church. So I found a new job for 3 weeks before college started. (They are now out of business, the same manager ran the business to the ground before the owner fired him).
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psr13
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I worked at Macy’s. We were usually scheduled for all day Sunday (the store was only open what constituted one shift) and Saturday nights. You have to have lots and lots of years in to not work those days. Not working Sunday was not an option.
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LilyM
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Well, what would have really happened if all the Jewish, Muslim and Christian employees had banded together and lobbied to each not work on their respective holy days each week? It’s not like Macy’s can really afford to fire and replace that many staff in one go, and if they did the bad publicity wouldn’t be worth it.
So you can’t say it wasn’t an option, most likely you just didn’t really sit down and try to find an effective way to change things.
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MissRose73
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Most of the jobs I have had held over the years have required weekend shifts or the potential you could/had to work weekends. I’ve been lucky for most of those jobs, I’ve been able to go to Mass and not missed work.
Certainly there maybe rules/regulations depending on the locality/employer regarding allowing employees reasonable rights to practice their religions which does include weekly worship. But at the same time if a place needs many people to work on Sunday, for many paying bills & having food to eat etc has to outweigh the religious needs. I know not all people choose to worship, but many do choose to do so.
I only wonder what those people who work in fields (public safety, medical professionals, etc) that must always have staff available and wish to also practice their faith. Hopefully, they can do so when not on duty.
Certainly there maybe rules/regulations depending on the locality/employer regarding allowing employees reasonable rights to practice their religions which does include weekly worship. But at the same time if a place needs many people to work on Sunday, for many paying bills & having food to eat etc has to outweigh the religious needs. I know not all people choose to worship, but many do choose to do so.
I only wonder what those people who work in fields (public safety, medical professionals, etc) that must always have staff available and wish to also practice their faith. Hopefully, they can do so when not on duty.
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psr13
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Really? Most Christians don’t care about working on Sundays. A number did ask to be able to come in later on that day in order to attend church and were flat out told that it is not an option. From what I hear from people who worked at other Macys’ stores, this is a typical policy.Well, what would have really happened if all the Jewish, Muslim and Christian employees had banded together and lobbied to each not work on their respective holy days each week? It’s not like Macy’s can really afford to fire and replace that many staff in one go, and if they did the bad publicity wouldn’t be worth it.
So you can’t say it wasn’t an option, most likely you just didn’t really sit down and try to find an effective way to change things.
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laszlo
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How many of you support the natural resolution: stores are closed on Sundays?
75% of the population is Christian and obliged to the Sunday rest. A just resolution would give day off to all of them.
75% of the population is Christian and obliged to the Sunday rest. A just resolution would give day off to all of them.
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Dale_M
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I remember the days of blue laws and am not eager for a return to them. If a store wishes to remain closed on Sundays, that is the owner’s right. I don’t think the government should force them to remain closed.
As for workers, they can negotiate when hired that they have Sundays off, either in total or in part. Or they can choose a business or line of work which does not want to employ them on Sundays. I don’t see any need for government dictating the days of a week on which a business can operate.
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jilly4ski
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In my state, the government requires that liquor stores are closed on Sundays.
So the government still thinks it should force certain businesses to close on Sundays.
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Dale_M
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Yes, and many states restrict the sale of alcohol on Sundays. But I don’t think the purpose of such laws is to give employees the day off. Would you favor extending the law to all businesses? Would you support requiring grocery stores and gas stations be closed? Movie theaters? Professional sports games? Restaurants?In my state, the government requires that liquor stores are closed on Sundays.
If the intent of such laws is to make sure that employees have Sunday off (or whatever their holy day of the week is) wouldn’t a less invasive state law simply guarantee the right of employees to their religion’s holy day off?
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jilly4ski
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I in fact do not support such laws. (mostly on practical reasons, for people who work odd hours, and people in essential services).I was just pointing out that states have no bones restricting what days a business can be open, mostly on a quasi religious/puritan basis.
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Holly3278
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Wow. That’s sad. If it came down to a question of whether I’d sacrifice my job or my religion, I’d sacrifice my job any day. Another job can be found.
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laszlo
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It would put unjust burden on a few people. Anyone who do not want to work on Sunday simply could claim that his religion requires that.
If the no servile work command is important, let everyone feel the beurde, and if they had no time to buy food on weekdays, let the fast on Sunday. It is healty. Does the religion worth as much?
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