your opinions on gays

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I am totally indifferent. I would advise them against multiple partners or any other such risky behavior but do not care who they find attractive, sexual or otherwise.
 
Homosexuals have something wrong in their wiring. The plumbing just isn’t right.

I love the people and hate the act. I pray for them daily.
 
Having known several gay people over the years, I think it’s how they are “wired.” I don’t think they can help their SSA. What they can help is whether they choose to act on their SSA, or decide instead to live a life of chastity since they are not called to married life. I think they have a special cross to bear in this life, and deserve our compassion, not judgment.
 
Sexuality doesn’t really matter to me. My best friend is gay, but he didn’t come out until the 3rd year I knew him. Since he came out we’ve become exponentially closer, I think its because we know we can be completely at ease around each other and be totally open. The possibility of male-female sexual tension thats present in so many guy-girl friendships doesn’t exist between he and I.

I know a lot of gays and they’re no different than anyone else I know (except for the obvious of course). I try to evaluate people by their ethics, compassion and the type of person they are…the only time sexuality is any importance is when I’m looking for a boyfriend 🙂
 
Gingerfish said:
im new so i just wanna see some opinions . Im all for it
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I try not to have opinions on groups of people, but rather focus on the value of the individual person.

Still, I have no clue what you are “all for” in your post???

Are you all for gay marriage? Gay sexual relationships? Non-chaste gays demanding to take the Eucharist? What are you all for?

The position of the Church is very clear. You can be “gay” but you can not get “married” or have “sexual relations” and be within the teachings of the Church. Then again with non-gays, pre-marital/extra-marital sex is also forbidden and considered a reason not to be worthy of accepting the Eucharist.
 
Gingerfish said:
im new so i just wanna see some opinions . Im all for it
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You’re for what?

Spread of AIDS, other infections, other medical conditions?

Forcing acceptance of the “gay lifestyle” on everyone?

Accepting gay persons for who they are and not what they do?

Specifics?
 
When it comes to hamburgers, topped with mustard and ketchup and three pickles, in my opinion, is the best way to enjoy them, hambugers that is, but what do I know?I grew up with McDonalds before the Big Mac was invited. When it comes to floats I prefer Root Beer floats, over Coke Floats and/or 7Up floats, it is my opinion, that they not only taste better, but make better foam… And I perfer French Fries over onion rings. Of course, IMHO McDonald fries have really gone down in quality since they started using frozon fries as opposed to fries made with fresh potatoes. Is that how you spell pototoes? I have been all mixed up on that since Dan Quayle gave us spelling lessons in the 80s. despite that snafu in my opinion I think he was right about family values.
Is that enough opinions for you?

As to gays, I follow the teachings of the Catholic Church.

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Gingerfish said:
im new so i just wanna see some opinions . Im all for it
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Ginger, I think you will find that the overwhelming number of people in these forums are Catholic, and that they take Church teachings about morality very seriously.

I think CarrieH’s post (its the fifth one in this thread) sums up what the Church teaches.
 
Hi,

God says homosexuality is sinful so I am against the lifestyle and do not condone nor would I support it.

With that said, I would never gay bash anyone(that is a sin as well). I went to college with many lesbians and they never bothered me(of course those were my BC years(Before Christ:o )

What I dont appreciate is the gay community glorifying their sin and trying to make all of us think it is ok when it is not.😦

My daughter may encounter a health teacher this year that has(in the past)said to the students that it is ok to experiment with homosexuality:bigyikes: :bigyikes: :mad: That I will have a HUGE problem with and will say something.

I would always show love and kindness to an openly gay person though.😃
 
Well I have to say, I am pleasantly surprised by the responses to this post. Being a Catholic that is gay - :eek: yes I said it - a Catholic that is gay I have to agree with a lot that has been said here.

I do believe however that I am “called” to marriage but that marriage is not allowed by the church or the law for that matter:( . I am not sexually promiscious, I am tested annually for HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases 👍 . To the best of my knowledge the largest increase in new HIV cases is with heterosexual females, not homosexuals - so please stop accusing us of spreading HIV.

The church has been wrong before aobut many things (Gallileo for one) and as much as I love the church, I believe the chuch’s teaching on homosexuality has some things that need to be re examined. Jesus NEVER said anything about homosexuality in all his teaching. The church’s teaching is a result of many things including its teaching about sexuality as a whole (reserved for pocreation - therefor unavailable to homosexuals). Believe me, I love God, I celebrate the Sacraments and attend mass regularly. I believe God created me this way and intends fully for me to love and experience intimate love of another human. But I also believe God intends for me to use my sexuality responsibly and not sleep around and such - just as a “heterosexual” couple is expected to do.

As with most “groups” the loudest and the most visible become the stereotype for that group. Believe me, we are not all drag queens and extravigent :doh2: . I do know some drag queens and some feminine men, but I also know many people that you would never guess are gay walking down the street, or even sitting beside you in church. So I caution you again such harsh judgements and remember the scripture to remove the plank in our own eyes before examining the splinter in someone elses.

I thank you for reading this far and have a WONDERFUL weekend!
 
tiggeriffic said:
I am not sexually promiscious, I am tested annually for HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases 👍 .
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I’m not sure that I understand. Why do you need to be tested if you are not promiscuous? Perhaps you could define promiscuous? I’d suggest if you sleep with someone you are being promiscuous.
 
tiggeriffic said:
Well I have to say, I am pleasantly surprised by the responses to this post. Being a Catholic that is gay - :eek: yes I said it - a Catholic that is gay I have to agree with a lot that has been said here.

I do believe however that I am “called” to marriage but that marriage is not allowed by the church or the law for that matter:( . I am not sexually promiscious, I am tested annually for HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases 👍 . To the best of my knowledge the largest increase in new HIV cases is with heterosexual females, not homosexuals - so please stop accusing us of spreading HIV.

The church has been wrong before aobut many things (Gallileo for one) and as much as I love the church, I believe the chuch’s teaching on homosexuality has some things that need to be re examined. Jesus NEVER said anything about homosexuality in all his teaching. The church’s teaching is a result of many things including its teaching about sexuality as a whole (reserved for pocreation - therefor unavailable to homosexuals). Believe me, I love God, I celebrate the Sacraments and attend mass regularly. I believe God created me this way and intends fully for me to love and experience intimate love of another human. But I also believe God intends for me to use my sexuality responsibly and not sleep around and such - just as a “heterosexual” couple is expected to do.

As with most “groups” the loudest and the most visible become the stereotype for that group. Believe me, we are not all drag queens and extravigent :doh2: . I do know some drag queens and some feminine men, but I also know many people that you would never guess are gay walking down the street, or even sitting beside you in church. So I caution you again such harsh judgements and remember the scripture to remove the plank in our own eyes before examining the splinter in someone elses.

I thank you for reading this far and have a WONDERFUL weekend!
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Jesus didn’t speak about a lot of things, but He left us a Church with authority.

The problem with proclaiming that you are a gay Catholic, is that you should not be receiving Holy Communion if you are embracing that lifestyle (i.e. having gay sexual relations). As a Catholic, homosexual acts are a mortal sin. We can’t pick and choose which sins we want to agree with and which we don’t. It would make my life much easier if artificial birth control were not a sin, but my wife and I faithfully practice NFP.

Now that I understand the Church’s teaching on sexuality, the birth control issue is less burdensome, but the obedience came first.
 
Even leaving aside the authority the Church has to teach on such matters of morality, I’ve found no other philosophy or belief regarding human sexuality–other than the Catholic belief–which does not eventually contradict itself.

Our sexuality is an immensely special gift which is part of both loving and creating life. We all struggle–some more than others–with impulses and tendencies that lead us away from a giving attitude toward a selfish, pleasure-seeking one, but we’re all called to stay aware of the sacredness of the gift, and honor its loving, life-creating nature.

Everyone I’ve heard with a different philosophy, such as “What consenting adults do is always okay,” always contradicts that philosophy eventually. Ninety percent of them don’t think it’s okay for three consenting adults to get married, for example, even though that may be “just who they are.”
Even more wouldn’t agree to let immediate relations (brother-sister, etc) marry, even if pregnancy were somehow made impossible. Even if that’s just “who they are.”

Yet that philosophy of “consenting adults” ought to permit all that and much, much more (let you imagination go…).
 
pyropam said:
Homosexuals have something wrong in their wiring. The plumbing just isn’t right.

I love the people and hate the act. I pray for them daily.
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It is a mental illness, a terrible burden & a call to celibacy. It can be over come and treated.
 
tiggeriffic said:
The church has been wrong before aobut many things (Gallileo for one) and as much as I love the church, I believe the chuch’s teaching on homosexuality has some things that need to be re examined. Jesus NEVER said anything about homosexuality in all his teaching.
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I thank you for reading this far and have a WONDERFUL weekend!
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Thanks. You, too.

The Church claims authority to teach absolute truth about faith and morality. It has never been wrong in teaching what is sinful, or about God, Christ, and our salvation. The Church doesn’t CLAIM to teach authoritatively about Galileo, and never proclaimed any doctrine concerning that whole matter.

If you say Christ never said a thing about homosexuality, I assume you are saying that Scriptures are not the Word of God. You are further saying that the Church to which you belong, also doesn’t proclaim the Word of God, even though that is the basis of the Church’s very existence. Yet you say you are Catholic.

It’s like me saying I’m a feminist, but I just don’t believe in equal rights for women. Or that I’m a Christian, but I just don’t believe Christ is a divine savior. The very fact of the first part automatically implies the second.

Peace.
John
 
tiggeriffic said:
Jesus NEVER said anything about homosexuality in all his teaching.
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Well, you can’t really make that statement. We know that not everything Jesus ever said is in the Bible and that is the only place we can find His words. Maybe those who chose the writings to include had a good reason for leaving it out. Thank God for Tradition and the Magesterium though. They fill in for us what the Bible doesn’t address.
 
tiggeriffic said:
Well I have to say, I am pleasantly surprised by the responses to this post. Being a Catholic that is gay - :eek: yes I said it - a Catholic that is gay I have to agree with a lot that has been said here.

I do believe however that I am “called” to marriage but that marriage is not allowed by the church or the law for that matter:( . I am not sexually promiscious, I am tested annually for HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases 👍 . To the best of my knowledge the largest increase in new HIV cases is with heterosexual females, not homosexuals - so please stop accusing us of spreading HIV.

The church has been wrong before aobut many things (Gallileo for one) and as much as I love the church, I believe the chuch’s teaching on homosexuality has some things that need to be re examined. Jesus NEVER said anything about homosexuality in all his teaching. The church’s teaching is a result of many things including its teaching about sexuality as a whole (reserved for pocreation - therefor unavailable to homosexuals). Believe me, I love God, I celebrate the Sacraments and attend mass regularly. I believe God created me this way and intends fully for me to love and experience intimate love of another human. But I also believe God intends for me to use my sexuality responsibly and not sleep around and such - just as a “heterosexual” couple is expected to do.

As with most “groups” the loudest and the most visible become the stereotype for that group. Believe me, we are not all drag queens and extravigent :doh2: . I do know some drag queens and some feminine men, but I also know many people that you would never guess are gay walking down the street, or even sitting beside you in church. So I caution you again such harsh judgements and remember the scripture to remove the plank in our own eyes before examining the splinter in someone elses.

I thank you for reading this far and have a WONDERFUL weekend!
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We;lleave your misconceptions about Gallelio alone for now BUT the Church CANT change its teachings on Homosexual behavior/.There is no way they can turntheir back on 2,000 years of teachings. Homosexual behavior is a grevious sin-regardless of what our culture may mislead you to beleive.
 
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