Your Personal Alcohol Consuption

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I am a “super-taster,” and my sensory system amplifies bitter flavors all out of proportion, so beer is out for me (so is coffee, but that’s a different story). Hard liquors like whiskeys and gins come back up just as fast as they went down. I can tolerate them if they’re really diluted in something sweet, but what’s the point of drinking something that you hate, just to be sociable? Add to that the fact that my body does not tolerate alcohol in quantity – I get sick as a dog.

At this point in my life the only drink that I can say that I really like is a shot of Captain Morgan in a glass of eggnog at bedtime. I don’t even get a buzz from it; it just tastes good. Maybe it relaxes me a little. But aside from that and the ver-r-ry occasional glass of wine, I’m still a Baptist 😃
 
LaughingBoy1503 said:
👍 “The Scientists opinion” I like it. The AMA that declared “alcoholism” a disease is a club of doctors. They are not the final authority on what is or is not a disease. There are plenty of doctors who say alcoholism is not a disease. I have heard this same club the AMA also said tobacco is not addictive back in the 50’s or 60’s. Or perhaps it was that tobacco was not harmful? Something along those lines anyways. The AMA is not infallible in what they declare.
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“**The **Scientists opinion” I like it.
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was actually
“This Scientists opinion”
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**This scientist says that there is not now or ever been a disease called alcoholism. It is a myth. **
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The same AMA that adopted the APA view that Homosexuality is not a disorder. You may also note the the APA and AMA are not in a consensus on the disease model of addiction/alcoholism.
 
CopticChristian said:
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The same AMA that adopted the APA view that Homosexuality is not a disorder. You may also note the the APA and AMA are not in a consensus on the disease model of addiction/alcoholism.
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I know what you meant. I was just making fun of the fact that in “The Big Book” of AA The first thing in the book is a chapter titled “The Doctors Opinion” instead of “One Doctors opinion” I am sure you are aware of that though 😃
 
LaughingBoy1503 said:
I know what you meant. I was just making fun of the fact that in “The Big Book” of AA The first thing in the book is a chapter titled “The Doctors Opinion” instead of “One Doctors opinion” I am sure you are aware of that though 😃
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That Doctor’s opinion, not mentioned in the Big Book…

silkworth.net/dickb/great_physician.html
First, let’s look at some things that Silkworth’s recent biographer Dale Mitchel found and wrote in his biography, Silkworth: The Little Doctor Who Loved Drunks. Center City, MN: Hazelden, 2002. Mitchell wrote:
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Silkworth’s family remembers him as a deeply spiritual man, yet unsatisfied with any particular denomination. A devout Christian, he initially fit well into the temperance mind-set developing across the country. For years he attended a church that would also have an impact on the formation of Alcoholics Anonymous, the Calvary Christian (Episcopal) Church, pp.11-12.
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Though Mitchell doesn’t specifically say so, this Calvary church was born on September 19, 1836 and was commonly called Calvary Church in the City of New York in which Church, Congregation or Society Divine Service is celebrated according to the Protestant Episcopal Church of the State of New York. See Samuel M. Shoemaker. Calvary Church Yesterday and Today. New York: Fleming H. Revell Company, 1936, pp. 15-16. And it was in 1925 that Samuel Moor Shoemaker, Jr., accepted the call to become the 12th Rector of Calvary Church. Shoemaker, Calvary Church, supra, pp. 231-245.
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Mitchell fails to mention that before, or possibly just after, his “Physician” discussion with Silkworth during Bill’s third hospitalization, and before his finally check-in at Towns Hospital, Bill had met with Ebby Thacher to discuss Ebby’s altar call at Shoemaker’s Calvary Rescue Mission. Thacher told Bill that he (Ebby) had been to Calvary Rescue Mission—also operated by Shoemaker’s Church; that he there had “found religion;” and that God had done for him what he could not do for himself. Wilson himself then went to the Rescue Mission, stated he wanted what Ebby had received there, and then went to the altar and made a decision for Christ. I personally talked with Mrs. Samuel Shoemaker on the phone, and she told me she was there when Bill made that decision for Christ. Mrs. Shoemaker used those very words. Many years later, Lois Wilson stated in an address that Bill had there given his life to Christ.
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Wilson gave his life to Christ, Ok.

Christ is what got him sober, Ok.

Then what in the world is any Catholic going to meetings with a bunch of “diseased” people looking for Christ, when in fact He can be found in the OHCAC…

gotta wonder:confused:
 
 
It always seemed odd to me that an addiction could be labeled a disease. It almost seems like a marketing ploy. What better way to sell “treatment” than to suggest that one’s condition is not their own fault. Granted AA is a non profit self help program so I’m not suggesting they are profiting from this. I remember taking a quiz when I was in college that had 14 alcohol consumption questions, and if one was to answer “yes” to 4 or more of them, they were deemed “definitely an alcoholic.” The problem with this quiz was that it framed questions around the word “ever”, e.g., “Have you ever taken a drink when…”
Most college students would be deemed alcoholic by this quiz as would most adult social drinkers, because of foolish experimentation they did in their youth.

I have no criticism of moderate alcohol consumption, and do drink sometimes, but I am reminded of Paul’s words, “Everything is permissible, but not everything is beneficial.” I am also reminded Of Jesus’ words, “The Kingdom of Heaven is within you.” If this is so, and I do believe it to be so, why would I want even moderate amounts of alcohol to unwind, or the myriad other reasons I might give myself? Unwind from what, anyways? Where is the “peace that surpasses understanding”? Certainly not in alcohol, because that is temporary and the things of God are eternal. I do ask myself lately if even moderate alcohol consumption might be inhibitory to spiritual growth.
 
Deus_tecum said:
I have no criticism of moderate alcohol consumption, and do drink sometimes, but I am reminded of Paul’s words, “Everything is permissible, but not everything is beneficial.” I am also reminded Of Jesus’ words, “The Kingdom of Heaven is within you.” If this is so, and I do believe it to be so, why would I want even moderate amounts of alcohol to unwind, or the myriad other reasons I might give myself? Unwind from what, anyways? Where is the “peace that surpasses understanding”? Certainly not in alcohol, because that is temporary and the things of God are eternal. I do ask myself lately if even moderate alcohol consumption might be inhibitory to spiritual growth.
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Worth thinking about. Thank you.
 
VeritasLuxMea said:
Yes, please. Very interested in hearing this, without necessarily buying/reading the book on it. 🙂
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Read through my posts on this thread…

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=735693

ask some specific questions and I can give you specific answers.

Something is not a disease because someone says so…it started with a study by a guy named Jellinek that was latched onto and marketed.

Start by researching Jellinek and his study, a bad study, poor study, and what happened as a result of his study…

look at the Baldwin Research Institute that has this outlined for you…

baldwinresearch.com/

Take a look at the websites for…

St. Jude, St. Gregory rehab and they have most of the stuff on “not a disease” material there…

Get hold of Stanton Peele, Phd…The Truth About Addiction…and he too has it outlined…I have his book and online program that I was asked to review…so I can put some of it up for your viewing later when I have time…
 
CopticChristian said:
Get hold of Stanton Peele, Phd…The Truth About Addiction…and he too has it outlined…I have his book and online program that I was asked to review…so I can put some of it up for your viewing later when I have time…
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I read Stanton Peele’s book “Love and Addiction” back in the 80s (I think) and very much enjoyed it, agreed with it, and learned from it.
 
I don’t drink at all but that’s because I’m a recovered alcoholic. I know that if I do drink I’d be almost certain to abuse it. I have no problems with moderate alcohol consumption, I’m just personally incapable of it.
 
djmauck said:
I don’t drink at all but that’s because I’m a recovered alcoholic. I know that if I do drink I’d be almost certain to abuse it. I have no problems with moderate alcohol consumption, I’m just personally incapable of it.
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Then you should not drink. This is what all “revovered alcoholics” that graduate from AA are taught. You may not know this but many that drank to excess, not labled alcoholic, never went to AA, drink moderately.
 
CopticChristian said:
Then you should not drink. This is what all “revovered alcoholics” that graduate from AA are taught. You may not know this but many that drank to excess, not labled alcoholic, never went to AA, drink moderately.
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Works for my uncle. 15 years sober. God bless him and God bless AA. 🙂
 
Not much at all.

Mostly a beer or two per week at most.

Don’t really like the stronger stuff, either. 🙂
 
I am over 220lbs and 6-3. I enjoy about 3 drinks at a time about once a week. I also see nothing wrong with a small amount of pot even know I don’t do it. I actually have seen alcohol be much more damaging than pot
 
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