‘13 Hours’ Gives Benghazi Attack Cinematic Treatment [NY Times]

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Putin discusses what events led up to Syria. He discusses Benghazi and who really is at fault for the mess in the middle east by stirring up an hornets nest and enabling groups like IS and AQ amongst others to run rampant.

youtube.com/watch?v=OQuceU3x2Ww
I don’t have sound on my computer,

Does he mention how Russia vetoes UN Resolutions to try the Syrian Regime that Russia supports of crimes against Humanity? I guess, they and that regime can’t have anything really to do with what’s gone wrong?

reuters.com/article/us-syria-crisis-un-icc-idUSBREA4M03220140523
Russia and China vetoed on Thursday a resolution to refer the situation in Syria to the International Criminal Court for possible prosecution of war crimes and crimes against humanity committed during the country’s three-year civil war.
This was the fourth time Russia - a close ally of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s government - and China have blocked U.N. Security Council action on Syria during the three-year civil war that has killed more than 150,000 people.
reuters.com/article/us-syria-crisis-un-icc-idUSBREA4M03220140523

Or maybe who really is responsible is who tried to sell ISIS radioactive material in Macedonia! nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/smugglers-tried-sell-nuclear-material-isis-ap-investigation-n439851

Is this the same Putin who the UK found “probably” authorized the murder of Litvenenko?
gosporttimes.com/2016/01/24/uk-judge-putin-probably-approved-killing-of-ex-kgb-agent/

Perhaps one can tell us who is really responsible!
 
You don’t need sound because there are subtitles since he is speaking Russian. You need to watch the whole thing.
I won’t spend a second of time watching someone who runs a regime where opposition politicians and critics of the regime are found dead. Among an endless litany of incidences that can be mentioned, saying he considered using nuclear weapons, funding rebels and really an invasion of a more Christian nation in Ukraine.

Maybe there are videos of other personalities I should put stock in. Perhaps some dictator in the 1930s.
 
I don’t have access to sound, what does Putin talk about? How Russia uses its veto power when the regime that is supported in Syria, is accused of genocide?

genocidewatch.org/syria.html
you ask in this post “what does Putin talk about?”

You would find it interesting what he has to say about Benghazi and Libya since this is what the thread is about. It is near the end.
 
you ask in this post “what does Putin talk about?”

You would find it interesting what he has to say about Benghazi and Libya since this is what the thread is about. It is near the end.
I don’t need a video to find out what Jeffrey Dahmer said, the British Government just said it is probable Putin authorized a killing of a Russian National in London. I don’t need to watch men of this repute speak. What’s next? Listen to the author of Mein Kampf ?
 
I don’t need a video to find out what Jeffrey Dahmer said, the British Government just said it is probable Putin authorized a killing of a Russian National in London. I don’t need to watch men of this repute speak. What’s next? Listen to the author of Mein Kampf ?
why did you ask what he talked about then?
 
why did you ask what he talked about then?
Because I was asking because I find it very offensive that one would allege such a person knows what is really going on; just like I think some would find it offensive if one said, here’s the author of Mein Kampf, he really knows what is going on.

That is why I asked what he talked about then!:mad:

Children are blown up by landmines in Ukraine because of an aggressor’s war there, children of all kinds and some things are offensive.

Maybe next, we can hear ISIS’s point of view. Any videos recommended?
 
Because I was asking because I find it very offensive that one would allege such a person knows what is really going on; just like I think some would find it offensive if one said, here’s the author of Mein Kampf, he really knows what is going on.

That is why I asked what he talked about then!:mad:

Children are blown up by landmines in Ukraine because of an aggressor’s war there, children of all kinds and some things are offensive.

Maybe next, we can hear ISIS’s point of view. Any videos recommended?
well this thread is about the movie of what happened during the 13 hour battle in Benghazi so I guess if you want to continue your feelings about Putin you should start another thread or take your anger to the one who posted the link.
 
well this thread is about the movie of what happened during the 13 hour battle in Benghazi so I guess if you want to continue your feelings about Putin you should start another thread or take your anger to the one who posted the link.
I wasn’t the one who brought in someone totally unrelated to this situation and thread with this claim about someone knowing what really happened. Let alone, most experts will tell you, even Chris Cristie said during the debate, who the Russians are backing is a regime human rights monitors would assert have killed 250,000 people.

I say “unrelated” and yes, he may have commented on it, I’m sure, I can find 1000s of people that have commented on Syria.

By the way, one should also we bsearch “civilians” to keep up with the news just in the past few days…or web search “barrel bombs”.
 
I wasn’t the one who brought in someone totally unrelated to this situation and thread with this claim about someone knowing what really happened. Let alone, most experts will tell you, even Chris Cristie said during the debate, who the Russians are backing is a regime human rights monitors would assert have killed 250,000 people.

I say “unrelated” and yes, he may have commented on it, I’m sure, I can find 1000s of people that have commented on Syria.

By the way, one should also we bsearch “civilians” to keep up with the news just in the past few days…or web search “barrel bombs”.
maybe you should get back to the topic of the movie.
 
Because I was asking because I find it very offensive that one would allege such a person knows what is really going on; just like I think some would find it offensive if one said, here’s the author of Mein Kampf, he really knows what is going on.

That is why I asked what he talked about then!:mad:

Children are blown up by landmines in Ukraine because of an aggressor’s war there, children of all kinds and some things are offensive.

Maybe next, we can hear ISIS’s point of view. Any videos recommended?
The US has blood on it’s hands too. An aggressor which has killed millions of innocent civilians in the Middle East through legal and deceitful warfare and illegal means? Why should the rest of the world put up with or listen to the war mongering megalomaniac that is the US government and it’s industrial military complex?

But we digress, I put the link up because Putin discusses Benghazi which the movie is about. He presents another viewpoint which differs from the well orchestrated viewpoint that the U.S. it’s allies and it’s media cooks up and feeds to it’s citizens.

You really should watch it, I’m no fan of Putin but he makes some very salient points and dishes out some hometruths.
 
The US has blood on it’s hands too. An aggressor which has killed millions of innocent civilians in the Middle East through legal and deceitful warfare and illegal means? Why should the rest of the world put up with or listen to the war mongering megalomaniac that is the US government and it’s industrial military complex?

But we digress, I put the link up because Putin discusses Benghazi which the movie is about. He presents another viewpoint which differs from the well orchestrated viewpoint that the U.S. it’s allies and it’s media cooks up and feeds to it’s citizens.

You really should watch it, I’m no fan of Putin but he makes some very salient points and dishes out some hometruths.
I thought he did too.
 
I haven’t seen any trailers about the movie yet. I will probably go see it if the reviews are good.
Just saw it, great movie. Thought our American heroes did well and that I’d get this older thread back up. Yes, I have heard there is so-so success at the box office.
 
Just saw it, great movie. Thought our American heroes did well and that I’d get this older thread back up. Yes, I have heard there is so-so success at the box office.
I heard they were trying to downplay the box office numbers trying to discourage people to see the movie. “They” being those that don’t want the American people to see what really happened. I applaud Michael Bay for making this movie of the events that took place…

Glad you got a chance to see it. How would they have explained away a higher death toll if no one would have survived?
 
I saw this a couple of days ago, expecting it to be a brainless shoot 'em or else we’re dead military movie, but I was pleasantly surprised.

That evening I went online to learn more about the Benghazi event through the actual contracted Marines/Seals/Rangers that experienced it, and as they said it’s an apolitcal movie. It’s just scenarios - not exaggerated or dishonestly told to create drama for drama’s sake - told through their eyes via movie format without pointing fingers on who to blame.

I’m currently listening to the soundtrack of Zero Dark Thirty, and with the help of that I do recommend 13 Hours: The Secrets Soldiers of Benghazi.
 
Directed the guy who made “Transformers”? Um, no, thanks. Apparently, this movie is tanking at the box office really bad. “Bad Grandpa” is doing better. “Ride Along 2” is doing better.

The average American moviegoer has never heard of Benghazi, nor are they aware that it was investigated by Congress (repeatedly, as a matter of fact) and there’s no “there” there. If there’s no “there” there, that doesn’t make for a good movie.

Just sayin’… 🤷
Dismissing it because it’s by Michael Bay is plain out ridiculous. He isn’t Tyler Perry. For mainstream movies, Bay isn’t bad. (I actually liked the first Transformers.)

As for its BO intake - why would you let it dictate what you see? I see movies that interest me, for whatever reason, regardless of who directed or how well it’s doing with the general public. I may like it, I may not. I have no interest in seeing Ride Along 2 so I didn’t pay to see it; I had enough interest to pay for a ticket for 13H:SSoB so I saw it.

Plus, your “there there” fails. Just because Congress found “nothing” doesn’t mean there’s no “there.” Are you implying that the movie is making a mole hill out of nothing? Apparently there’s a “there” according to the people who experienced it aka the contracted soldiers who experienced it.

And who are you to say that it’s not a good movie based on what you’ve written? From my perspective you don’t have an argument because you refuse to see it in the first place.
 
The US has blood on it’s hands too. An aggressor which has killed millions of innocent civilians in the Middle East through legal and deceitful warfare and illegal means? Why should the rest of the world put up with or listen to the war mongering megalomaniac that is the US government and it’s industrial military complex?

But we digress, I put the link up because Putin discusses Benghazi which the movie is about. He presents another viewpoint which differs from the well orchestrated viewpoint that the U.S. it’s allies and it’s media cooks up and feeds to it’s citizens.

You really should watch it, I’m no fan of Putin but he makes some very salient points and dishes out some hometruths.
Yes, I agree, the US is just more sneaky/ manipulative, and has a more convincing media than some other countries, they know a certain percentage of people are always going to believe everything they hear on the mainstream media, so they use that to their advantage.

Im pretty much convinced, in the US we only hear what ‘news’ we are meant to hear.
 
Dismissing it because it’s by Michael Bay is plain out ridiculous. He isn’t Tyler Perry. For mainstream movies, Bay isn’t bad. (I actually liked the first Transformers.)

As for its BO intake - why would you let it dictate what you see? I see movies that interest me, for whatever reason, regardless of who directed or how well it’s doing with the general public. I may like it, I may not. I have no interest in seeing Ride Along 2 so I didn’t pay to see it; I had enough interest to pay for a ticket for 13H:SSoB so I saw it.

Plus, your “there there” fails. Just because Congress found “nothing” doesn’t mean there’s no “there.” Are you implying that the movie is making a mole hill out of nothing? Apparently there’s a “there” according to the people who experienced it aka the contracted soldiers who experienced it.

And who are you to say that it’s not a good movie based on what you’ve written? From my perspective you don’t have an argument because you refuse to see it in the first place.
👍 Well said. I am glad you got to see the movie. I almost didn’t see it, but I was also pleasantly surprised what a good movie it was and I was very glad I saw it although it was not easy to watch.
 
I don’t have access to sound, what does Putin talk about? How Russia uses its veto power when the regime that is supported in Syria, is accused of genocide?

genocidewatch.org/syria.html
Politics depress me. Am I the only one that questions the time of this picture’s release? What if the main charechtors had been Trump or another person of the right? Things might look a tad different then.
 
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