‘Catholic,’ ‘Christian’ gay projects funded by homosexualist billionaire

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Top ‘gay-rights’ groups claiming to represent Christians and Catholics, and at least one Jesuit-run college, are being funded by a major homosexualist business magnate with the aim of stirring up dissent within the ranks of the church.

In a recent article Thomas Peters, Cultural Director for the National Organization for Marriage and founder of the American Papist blog, revealed the funding sources of various groups that promote acceptance of homosexuality under the guise of representing concerned members of the Judaeo-Christian community.

lifesitenews.com/news/catholic-christian-gay-projects-funded-by-homosexualist-billionaire
 
I thought this was kind of silly in this article,
Proponents of gay marriage are smart – they create organizations to funnel their wealth to the causes they want to see succeed,” wrote Peters, who pointed to the degrees of separation obscuring the relationship between New Ways Ministry and Stryker’s foundation.
Who would ever think of creating an organization to promote the cause they want to succeed? They must be geniuses 😃

/sarcasm

It’s said as if this were a sneaky tactic or something. Maybe he expects these millionaires to bring their money in sacks with $ signs and start bribing people directly.
 
I thought this was kind of silly in this article,

Who would ever think of creating an organization to promote the cause they want to succeed? They must be geniuses 😃

/sarcasm

It’s said as if this were a sneaky tactic or something. Maybe he expects these millionaires to bring their money in sacks with $ signs and start bribing people directly.
You just don’t understand the workings of genius minds. Why just last Sunday I put money in my Church’s collection basket with the all too clever plan of not only helping it succeed, but being able to deduct the donation from my taxes! Sometimes I donate to cancer research too in hopes that I will have to witness less painful deaths from cancer and possibly promote a cure for anything I might acquire in the future. I know it is a little difficult to understand for some, but to the more clever members of society my plans are near flawless.
 
You just don’t understand the workings of genius minds. Why just last Sunday I put money in my Church’s collection basket with the all too clever plan of not only helping it succeed, but being able to deduct the donation from my taxes! Sometimes I donate to cancer research too in hopes that I will have to witness less painful deaths from cancer and possibly promote a cure for anything I might acquire in the future. I know it is a little difficult to understand for some, but to the more clever members of society my plans are near flawless.
It seems that entire theme of the article flew right past you, Patrick. Your intentions with regard to the collection basket were transparent. By putting money in your Church collection, you’re not using another persona or collective group to advance a cause not represented by that group.
 
It seems that entire theme of the article flew right past you, Patrick. Your intentions with regard to the collection basket were transparent. By putting money in your Church collection, you’re not using another persona or collective group to advance a cause not represented by that group.
I was just talking about that one quote, and if you don’t think it is slightly ridiculous or out of place then I respectfully disagree and continue to stand by my comments.
 
But what lynx quoted is the core of the article, and to what I was referring. Your comment to lynx bypasses that entirely, focusing only on the projects’ goals, not the duplicitous means/messages to achieve those.

I understand you’re amused. I am not. Nor do I think the OP posted it as an amusing article.
 
I am not sure I am following the last few comments regarding the “funneling of wealth” as I am somewhat dense, and that there is sarcasm and other poorly rendered things in the posts. But that said, lyx’s comment about the “funneling of wealth” comment being silly, and those that concur, suggests the money quote is not being read in the context of the original article (found here).

You’ll notice I had to make several hops to get from Tim Gill and Jon Styker to New Ways Ministry. This is because proponents of gay marriage are smart – they create organizations to funnel their wealth to the causes they want to see succeed.

Emphasis mine. The point isn’t that they want this to succeed (of course they did, well duh!), but in the tactics used so as to obfuscate where much of the funding etc for its success is coming from. And as Peters also suggests in the original article, many of those sympathetic to New Ways et al might be quite surprised and disappointed to find out how much of the movement’s momentum is not genuine grassroots conviction but rather essentially nothing more than a commercial interest (compare too to the recent silly “poll” about support for the -]chimera/-] institution of SSM). His read is quite worth it.
 
But what lynx quoted is the core of the article, and to what I was referring. Your comment to lynx bypasses that entirely, focusing only on the projects’ goals, not the duplicitous means/messages to achieve those.

I understand you’re amused. I am not. Nor do I think the OP posted it as an amusing article.
It seems gross deception by very dishonest people is required to bring about the extension of gross attitudes and gross behaviour in others.

Sort of figures, doesn’t it?
 
It seems gross deception by very dishonest people is required to bring about the extension of gross attitudes and gross behaviour in others.

Sort of figures, doesn’t it?
I would actually be just as repelled if a billionaire funding source gave money to some dishonest “New Wealth Ministry,” which claimed that it represented some Catholic/Christian outreach, whereas in reality it was promoting the financial exploitation of others. To me it’s the cynical manipulation of language and image for political purposes, and the degradation of true religious values in the process.

The ‘sort of figures’ part, to me, is the amorality of such persons, combined with the contempt for traditional values.
 
Well if there is going to be an insistence that I read and consider the article as a serious meaningful work:

It reeks of conspiracy theory to me.

A rich gay man (who is not actually a billionaire as the article claims, but a multi-millionaire), knows and has financial ties (they worked together on a political project in 2006) to this other guy, who founded and in the president of a foundation that works towards the conservation of great apes and promotion of LGBT rights (what a weird combination), of the grant money that this foundation gave out in 2009 .6% of the money directed towards LGBT causes or .4% of its total grants given out for the year went to a 33 year old ministry who has never been shy about admitting its social support for homosexuals. Oh and over the past 3 years they have given $700,000 or roughly .7% of their outgoing grant money organizations or activities that had a connection to the Catholic church. This must mean they are purposely and systematically scheming to create a rift in the church. If they would just shut their traps, and close their wallets then Catholics wouldn’t have to listen to their beliefs being challenged so often and it would be easier to simply ignore the issue!

Oh and they also gave 6.5% of their total outgoing grants to general Christian organizations,
much of which went towards the construction and development of homosexual friendly protestant churches.

What happened: An organization run by a heterosexual billionaire gave grant money (that can be applied for by anyone on their website) to organizations that support their goals of seeing gays given more rights and decreasing negativity towards them. The organization is very open about its intention to fund pro-gay movements that already exist within religious organizations and has never been shy about it as can be seen in this 2008 document on their site.(arcusfoundation.org/images/uploads/downloads/Jon_Stryker_Chronicle_Philanthropy_Interview_2008.pdf)

What the article wants me to believe: Tim Gill (did we mention he is gay), who has his own foundation for gay rights that he funds personally, gave money to Jon Stryker, a richer man, in order to influence him to do what he was already doing as the president of and founder of an organization very similar to Gill’s. Stryker’s organization Arcus purposely distributes money in strategic ways so that it might create disputes within the Church and bring it into disunity. Catholics should find it deeply troubling that the gay marriage agenda isn’t just being funded by normal people, but by billionaires! When the part of the funding for movements comes rich people it means the movement and its supporters are artificial!

This just isn’t good journalism. It isn’t meant to bring up ideas and discussion it is meant to set everything in an “us v. them” light. No one with any sense is going to be truly surprised that within a billion member church there are groups supporting parts of the “gay agenda.” A responsible article would have examined the motivations of these groups and gotten their side of the story so that the faithful can understand what is going on their church, not simply tried to label our confused fellow Catholics as our enemy.
 
Fellow Catholics,

Notice the co-incidental news of the rigged poll that Catholics favor same-sex marriage, which turns out to have been funded by Arcus, a gay rights activist foundation, and this piece of news provided by the OP, that the same organization has funded New Ways Ministry, a dissident “Catholic” group among others it likewise funded.

New Ways Ministry has been passing itself as Catholic even if the Catholic Church has severed ties with it back in 1984, per this Catholic News Agency article.

According to the New Ways Ministry site, it is a “Catholic” [quotes mine]
national ministry of justice and education for lesbian/gay Catholics and the wider church community.

NWM director Francis DeBernardo authored published a booklet in February 2011, titled “Marriage Equality: a positive Catholic approach,” which the bishops are disavowing as Catholic. The booklet, as reviewed by the bishops, has misrepresentations of the position of the Church on same-sex marriage, such as that “Catholic tradition” allows for laity and theologians within the Church – some of whom support allowing marriage for same-sex couples – to have equal say and authority on the issue.

Cardinal Wuerl, who heads the Committee on Doctrine for the U.S bishops’ conference, stated that NWM is not “in conformity” with Catholic teaching and that the group should refrain from even identifying itself as Catholic. It should be noted that NWM has been considered not in conformity since1984 when its founders Sr. Jeannine Gramick, SSND, and Fr. Robert Nugent – were barred from continuing their activities in the Archdiocese of Washington, for their errors and ambiguities in the ministry’s adherence to Church teaching on the morality of homosexual acts.

NWM received large sums from, yes, from the same gay rights activist foundation, Arcus Foundation, for the purpose of promoting same-sex “marriage” specifically among Catholics, Lutherans, Episcopalians, and Jews.

The Arcus Foundation was begun by Jon Stryker, an openly gay billionaire stockholder and a leading supporter of homosexualist initiatives. A 2006 Salon article points to the influence of gay software millionaire and activist Tom Gill on Stryker.

Of interest, these two named influential homosexualists were known as part of a special group of five powerful homosexuals, known as The Gay Mafia That’s Redefining Liberal Politics in the U.S., according to this Time Magazine article in October 2008. On what did they have their eyes on at that time? To fund the campaigns of candidates on only one issue, that they are and projected to be pro-gay cause, most of all pro-gay ‘marriage.’

The article named the gay Super Friends as: David Bohnett of Beverly Hills, Calif., who in 1999 sold the company he had co-founded, Geo-Cities, to Yahoo! in a deal worth $5 billion on the day it was announced; Timothy Gill of Denver, another tech multimillionaire; James Hormel of San Francisco, grandson of George, who founded the famous meat company; Jon Stryker of Kalamazoo, Mich., the billionaire grandson of the founder of medical-technology giant Stryker Corp.; and Henry van Ameringen, whose father Arnold Louis van Ameringen started a Manhattan-based import company that later became the mammoth International Flavors & Fragrances.

As also mentioned in the article, in 2007, Stryker’s Arcus Foundation gave away $11.8 million as part of its Gay and Lesbian Program. The money reached both big-name groups like the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (which got half a million dollars) and little organizations like the Actors Theatre Co. of Grand Rapids, Mich., which got $25,000 to produce a play called Seven Passages: The Story of Gay Christians.

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Some two or three years later, reports indicate that Arcus has been busy focusing on funding dissident “Catholic” organizations to promote the gay ‘marriage’ agenda in America:
  • (2010) Dignity USA – $200K to increase the impact of Catholic pro-LGBT advocacy in the US through the work of Equally Blessed, a coalition of pro-LGBT Catholic advocacy organizations.
  • (2010) Women’s Alliance for Theology, Ethics and Ritual – $70K to create a cadre of Catholic lesbian, bisexual and transgender women and their allies that would assume a leadership role within the Catholic community on issues related to gender, sexuality, reproductive health, and other justice issues.
  • (2010) Fairfield University – $100K to hold and disseminate information from a series of forums at four academic institutions in order to expand the current discussion on homosexuality within Roman Catholicism to include the diverse opinions of progressive Catholic thought leaders and theologians.
  • (2009) Dignity USA – $36K to support a planning process that defines strategies to expand Dignity’s national membership base of pro-LGBT Catholics.
  • (2009) National Gay and Lesbian Task Force – $153K for support of a collaborative strategic planning process focused on building a pro-LGBT movement within the Roman Catholic Church in the U.S.
  • (2009) New Ways Ministry – $93K to educate Maryland’s Catholic laity and lawmakers about marriage equality.
  • (2008) Dignity USA – $20K to support media and advocacy activities in connection with the first visit of Pope Benedict XVI to the United States in April 2008.
  • (2008) Mainstream Media Project – $23K for the Mainstream Media Project to work with four leading Catholic LGBT organizations to conduct a messaging campaign and schedule interviews in the broadcast media that promote pro- LGBT messages in connection with Pope Benedict XVI’s visit to Washington, D.C. and New York City in April 2008.
In other words, almost $700K in the past few years to “Catholic” organizations and organizations tasked with changing Catholic beliefs. Informed Catholics are aware that these organizations are not Catholic as they have separated their goals from that of the Church.

Some may see no issues when a gay rights activist group funds a poll to give a false picture of majority Catholics favoring same-sex ‘marriage.’ Some may see no problems that the same gay rights activist group is funding dissident “Catholic” groups in its promotion of the gay ‘marriage’ agenda by claiming members of such listed organizations are Catholics, when they no longer are. If that is not deception, what is?

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In other words, almost $700K in the past few years to “Catholic” organizations and organizations tasked with changing Catholic beliefs. Informed Catholics are aware that these organizations are not Catholic as they have separated their goals from that of the Church.

Some may see no issues when a gay rights activist group funds a poll to give a false picture of majority Catholics favoring same-sex ‘marriage.’ Some may see no problems that the same gay rights activist group is funding dissident “Catholic” groups in its promotion of the gay ‘marriage’ agenda by claiming members of such listed organizations are Catholics, when they no longer are. If that is not deception, what is?

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I can’t make up my mind whether InSearchofGrace has exposed nefarious characters attempting dirty deeds, or whether they are dirty characters attempting nefarious deeds.

Either way, it is no laughing matter. It’s a vile deception.
Anyone who even remotely supports any of this agenda is a hater of truth.
 
Well if there is going to be an insistence that I read and consider the article as a serious meaningful work:

It reeks of conspiracy theory to me.
Thus, Time Magazine, Salon.com, and CNA are merely carrying water for these “conspiracy theorists” as well?

Yes, lifesitenews is, in general, poor journalism, and too often “journalism” should be surrounded by quotation marks. This has been noted by many CAF forum users, including, I believe, some clergy, who regret that the site compromises credibility and thus damages the very Life issues it promotes.

Nevertheless, given that there are corroborating sources to some of the dynamics reported in this particular thread story, why do you dismiss out of hand the possibility that there are powerful gays who are manipulating the language of “ministry” to oppose the values that your Church stands for? And if you do agree that that’s a possibility, why would you, a Catholic, not be concerned about that level of aggression, and the deceptive means employed?
 
Oh and over the past 3 years they have given $700,000 or roughly .7% of their outgoing grant money organizations or activities that had a connection to the Catholic church. This must mean they are purposely and systematically scheming to create a rift in the church. If they would just shut their traps, and close their wallets then Catholics wouldn’t have to listen to their beliefs being challenged so often and it would be easier to simply ignore the issue!

Stryker’s organization Arcus purposely distributes money in strategic ways so that it might create disputes within the Church and bring it into disunity. Catholics should find it deeply troubling that the gay marriage agenda isn’t just being funded by normal people, but by billionaires!
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No, Catholics who are committed to Traditional Marriage should be deeply troubled by both covert and overt attempts to create and exploit disunity in the Church.

I offer you another poster’s assessment on a different thread concerning influence of gay activists on faithful Catholics, and the back-and-forth that occurred about that influence and its motivations:
They’re also trying to persuade the average pew Catholic that their leaders are mistaken on this issue.
In which case they [gay activists] fail to see something rather essential about the Roman Catholic Church: it is not a democracy in any sense – not a representative democracy, not a constitutional democracy, not an absolute democracy. And the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (which is responsible for the creation of doctrine) does not derive that doctrine form “the average pew Catholic” — whether or not that average pew Catholic thinks his leaders “are mistaken on [any] issue.”
Whatever else you may think of it, the gay protesters have a rational strategy. American Catholics as a whole are very often at odds with their bishops on this issue. Mark Silk is quoting some poll that says 47% of Catholics in this country now favor same sex marriage. Now, that includes a lot of nominal Catholics, no doubt, and the numbers will be different among regular church goers, but even bad Catholics vote, and no church is of one mind on this (church meaning all the people, not just the hierarchy). Many Catholics agree with the bishops, of course. Others think they’re dead wrong. Many others are somewhere in between, as posters on here have mentioned. They might favor the Church retaining its definition of marriage internally for sacraments, but don’t think it ought to be interfering in secular matters for the rest of the population. They don’t have to change doctrine or a single bishop’s mind to win this issue.
 
At least they are funding Christian.:rolleyes:
Ready for some serious read?

If this 2009 article from a mainline Christian / Protestant site is any indication, the Arcus Foundation’s influence (via financial donation with a string) on their church agenda was worthy of scrutiny.

The piece lists different churches that received big donations from Arcus. It includes those who opened their churches and seminaries to the homosexual agenda 20 to 25 years ago. Arcus is not simply funneling donations for the full inclusion of the LGBT faithful, it seeks the development and dissemination of a theological and philosophical framework that affirms the full expression of LGBT sexuality.

What easier target for this gay rights activist group than an already splintered group, not unlike what the Catholic bishops are now seeing with the Arcus donations to Dignity, NWM, etc., which have really ceased to be Catholic. The dollar goes a longer way!

The writer lamented how important it is for a church to be financially independent, beholden to no one. The donations show the power money brings to a cause. Even this Episcopalian priest Fr Andrew Gross reportedly said that the money from a secular organization is being used to tilt the balance of power within their churches.

Interestingly, here’s also a 2009 article by Fr. Gross: Following the Money: Arcus Foundation Funding Gay Activism in Episcopal Church, as featured in StandFirm, a Traditional Anglicanism in America site.

Note this paragraph:One of the Arcus Foundation’s core initiatives is their “Religion & Values Program” which “seeks to change LGBT exclusionary denominational policies; build an LGBT inclusive faith-based social justice movement; and refute beliefs that portray gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people as sinful and immoral.” In 2008, Arcus funded this priority by distributing 19 grants totalling $2,128,331. Of that amount, over half a million dollars found its way into the budgets of Integrity (TEC), the Chicago Consultation (TEC), and Lutherans Concerned (ELCA).Hey, Jared, look, there’s your denomination as italicized above by me! Hmmm. We know you make your presence in these homosexuality threads at CAF for, maybe, fellowship?:rolleyes: Nice try, your claim as 30% Catholic in an early post. At least, you recently changed your profile to your actual religious affiliation, so there could be no misunderstanding as to the whys and wherefores of your participation.
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Ready for some serious read?

If this 2009 article from a mainline Christian / Protestant site is any indication, the Arcus Foundation’s influence (via financial donation with a string) on their church agenda was worthy of scrutiny.

The piece lists different churches that received big donations from Arcus. It includes those who opened their churches and seminaries to the homosexual agenda 20 to 25 years ago. Arcus is not simply funneling donations for the full inclusion of the LGBT faithful, it seeks the development and dissemination of a theological and philosophical framework that affirms the full expression of LGBT sexuality.
Do you honestly think homosexuals are gonna donate to anti-gay Christians?🤷 I don’t see anything wrong with LGBT donations to Christian denominations.
What easier target for this gay rights activist group than an already splintered group, not unlike what the Catholic bishops are now seeing with the Arcus donations to Dignity, NWM, etc., which have really ceased to be Catholic. The dollar goes a longer way!
The writer lamented how important it is for a church to be financially independent, beholden to no one. The donations show the power money brings to a cause. Even this Episcopalian priest Fr Andrew Gross reportedly said that the money from a secular organization is being used to tilt the balance of power within their churches.
Interestingly, here’s also a 2009 article by Fr. Gross: Following the Money: Arcus Foundation Funding Gay Activism in Episcopal Church, as featured in StandFirm, a Traditional Anglicanism in America site.
Note this paragraph:One of the Arcus Foundation’s core initiatives is their “Religion & Values Program” which “seeks to change LGBT exclusionary denominational policies; build an LGBT inclusive faith-based social justice movement; and refute beliefs that portray gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people as sinful and immoral.” In 2008, Arcus funded this priority by distributing 19 grants totalling $2,128,331. Of that amount, over half a million dollars found its way into the budgets of Integrity (TEC), the Chicago Consultation (TEC), and Lutherans Concerned (ELCA).Hey, Jared, look, there’s your denomination as italicized above by me! Hmmm. We know you make yourself heard in these homosexuality threads at CAF for, maybe, fellowship?:rolleyes: Nice try, your claim as 30% Catholic in an early post.
I only did that so I could fit in here ok.😊 I took it down. I was only baptized Catholic and that’s about it.
At least, you recently changed your actual religious affiliation, so there could be no misunderstanding as to the whys and wherefores of your participation here.
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I’m only here to have conversations with my Christian brothers and sisters. It’s only some people around here that don’t act every Christian like towards my views. Excuse me for having an opinion.🤷
 
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