“Misgender” a transgender person and lose your healthcare? New rules in UK make it possible

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EndTimes said:
UK Med Care easily succumbs to LGBTQ-ism

T? Is a mental disease.

The Rest? Connects with Homosexualism

They’re not Genders

Male and Female are the two and only Genders

They’re? Sexual Preferences

Homo-Sexual? Sexual attraction to someone(s) of your Gender

And What About Male and Female H? aka Heterosexual? Chopped Liver? 😃
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Why not just say “homosexuality” instead of “homosexualism”?

According to Webster’s Dictionary:

Noun 1. homosexualism - a sexual attraction to (or sexual relations with) persons of the same sex.

Or Collins Dictionary:

homosexualism - NOUN, an old-fashioned name for homosexuality.

And sexual orientation is not really a “preference” and calling it a “preference” seems to me to trivialize the issue. If a man is heterosexual, it’s not as if he usually “prefers” to have sex with women, but wouldn’t mind having sex with a man instead. It’s not like someone who “prefers” chocolate ice cream, but if there isn’t any chocolate, wouldn’t mind having vanilla ice cream instead.
 
I can understand that logic. However, on what basis do you claim to know with certainty what any random person’s “actual sex” is?
 
Yes, agreed. I should have made it more clear that, while I understand the logic, I definitely do not agree with where it was taken.
 
Nope. I am talking about someone who appears to be definitely one sex or the other in general external appearance. Possibly wearing unisex clothing, but definitely appears to be one or the other. I know that I have misidentified more than one person like that, and I would be willing to bet money that you have as well, even if you didn’t and don’t realize it.
 
That’s kind of my point. You still would have no way of knowing with 100% certainty if the person was yanking your chain, was actually transgender, or you really did misidentify them. So why not take them at their word and call them what they ask? Not to mention the multitude of people you only see in passing and don’t even interact with.
 
To be absolutely clear, do you mean at policy such as this’ in regards to verbal abuse against staff, or one about misgendering in particular?
 
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I also, can think of no reasonable Person who would have issue with policies that protect staff from verbal abuse.

I do find it so very odd that so much drama is being created about the misgendering issue. Especially since this ‘policy’ makes no mention of misgendering, makes absolutely no recommendations or suggestions that ‘misgendering’ is Included within the guidelines. Nor has misgendering been mentioned by anyone involved in the policy making - not the health secretary, not any NHS governance leads, no Hospital executives.

If anyone can find any one single reference to misgendering specifically in ANY hospital abuse policy, I would be incredibly interested in seeing it.
 
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Do you generally ask people what their sex is if you’re not sure? I assume that even if you actually did that then you would then refer to that person as the gender they gave.

At that point I see no problem.

The only time there could be a problem would be if you then went on to ask something along the lines of: ‘But did you start off as that sex?’ Which is kinda weird I think.
 
I wouldn’t use that phrasing or that question under any circumstance.
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Then we have no problem. You’ll address them as they request.
 
Right, unless I somehow know for certain (quite unlikely) that they are lying.

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So let’s say it was someone you knew as a boy in school and now you are being examined by a woman. You bring it up. And she says that she went through a terrible time right throughout her schooldays as she was born male but had always thought of herself as a woman. She is considering surgery.

Everyone knows her as a woman, treats her as a woman and she has never felt more accepted by society.

So you refuse to refer to your old friend as ‘her’? She is, in your words, lying?
 
Zach said:
"The UK’s nationalized medical industry has implemented new rules expanding the reasons medical staff can refuse non-critical healthcare. "
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I think they should do that to everyone. Too many people these days go to the casualty department at hospital instead of their doctor or a pharmacist with basic things. Also lots of drunks being sick etc.
 
Freddy said:
So you refuse to refer to your old friend as ‘her’?
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There are other substitutes that don’t involve misgendering so it can be reasonably done in a non-offensive way.
 
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Transgender - is not a Gender…

Transgender people have a gender identity that differs from their sex assigned at birth.

As in - An obvious male who claims he’s a female - aka an emotional/mental problem

In Catholicism - Male and Female are the only Genders
 
I think you’ll find a LOT more examples of governments using the military to control their people than health care…
 
Bruised_Reed said:
Who say it is? Not transgender people.
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Self-Evidently - with an “No Kidding” - they and anyone into LGBQT-ism … .wouldn’t

There’s’ two and only two genders according to Catholic Teachings - Male and Female

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