“Sweating” of Jesus in the tomb where he was laid hints Jesus lived

[swariffin]

**Thanks swariffin. If Jesus was god from the beginning to end then he must have gone through many transformations, mutations… conception, development, delivery, growth, life and death… (Why death?)

He may have been a sperm too?? (Perhaps).

He was God and came into the belly (womb) of Mary. Then where was the Great God? And who was ruling (running) the Universe?

You people say that God can do anything and everything and he can become a man too. Well, Well. What for?

Can he not forgive or save the people without becoming a man? Please reply to all my questions ( kindly, gently). Thanks in advance.**

Human cannot communicate directly face to face with God. So, as God love us, He came to us, lowering His status, becoming a human being, and communicate to us face to face.

When Barrack Obama “disguised” himself as an ordinary American, does it mean that he lose his power as the President of the US, and lose his nuclear weapon code???

 

[swariffin]

Hi

Jesus is the word of God but not God as it was erroneous on the part of him of thinking to become a man. One who makes a mistake cannot be God.

I love Jesus; kindly let him remain a man at least

Thanks

Can you prove your own word??? A man with dignity is capable of proving his own word you know. If a man claim something without being able to prove it, then he is not a man. A child, perhaps. So, if you are a man, please don’t be childish brother.

 

[swariffin]

Hi the mistake is that of thinking to become a man as our Catholic friends believe on the par of CatholicGod and then actually becoming a man who is apt to err. Mistake on the part of CatholicGod and then on the part of Jesus the man to accept this faulty preposition, in my opinion.

Jesus could have refused it if he had the free will, in my opinion. Did he have a free will or not?

I love Jesus

Thanks

Please quote your source of argument, brother. To answer your question, Yes. Jesus has his own free will as human. And, out of his own free will, He has chosen to accept the mission from God. An impossible mission to your humanly (which can only accuse without proof) mind, but highly possible with respect to God.

 

[swariffin]

Just by the simple reason of proving his love for us, Jesus became a man. That is not understandable. He could not show his love without becoming a man. There was no reason tobecome a man at all.

If he wanted to forgive the sins of mankind, he could always do it at any time without becoming a man. It is also wrong to believe that only Jesus was sinless. In that way the Catholics have no faith, no faith in any one except Jesus. That is wrong.

We Muslims have faith in all the prophets / messengers of God. We believe them all to be sinless. But in any case we do not believe that only Jesus was sinless. That is not a good belief to say that only Jesus was sinless. All others (even a new born baby) are sinful. Please consider…

No wonder if Muhammad fall in lust, you call it heavenly lust and it is legally from heaven. Your idea about God is based on man-made behavior. Our idea of God is not man made. It is solely based on Jesus (you are correct in this part). And, we believe that Jesus is the true word of God. No other human can give a better example than Jesus. Please name a single mistake Jesus made. You cannot prove it, but keep on accusing. I wonder why? Perhaps you believe throwing so many wrong accusation will finally made it become a truth. What a funny concept you have.

 

[paarsurrey]

Just by the simple reason of proving his love for us, Jesus became a man. That is not understandable. He could not show his love without becoming a man. There was no reason tobecome a man at all.

If he wanted to forgive the sins of mankind, he could always do it at any time without becoming a man. .

Hi

One should think either it was a mistake on the part of Catholic-god-Father or on the part of Catholic-god-Holy-Ghost or on the part of Jesus-the-perfect-man or on the part of all three combined, in my opinion.

I love Jesus and Mary

Thanks

 

[Jay53]

We Muslims have faith in all the prophets / messengers of God. We believe them all to be sinless. But in any case we do not believe that only Jesus was sinless. That is not a good belief to say that only Jesus was sinless. All others (even a new born baby) are sinful. Please consider…

Where did the idea that all prophets are sinless come from? Is this written in the Quran? How can you possibly believe Muhammad (for example) was sinless - he murdered people, he lied/encouraged others to lie etc. Are those not sins? What about before he revealed the Quran - was he also sinless then? I would just like an honest understanding of where this belief came from. Thank you.

 

[paarsurrey]

How can you possibly believe Muhammad (for example) was sinless - he murdered people

Hi

I today received a post on my blog from one of my Christian friends/brothers in humanity which somewhat relates to the issue.

I want to share it with my friends here:

Was Moses a murderer like Paul was a murderer of Jesus’ followers?

wellwateredgarden Says:

Paarsurrey,

Moses was not a perfect human being. Among other things, he was a murderer, he was not a willing deliverer of the Jewish people from Egypt. God would not even let him into the Promised Land.

Was Moses raised from the dead? Was Krishna raised from the dead? Was Zoroaster raised from the dead?

Jesus was raised from the dead to prove that God accepted His life and death as atonement for human sin. Who else did God raise from death and then accepted him bodily into heaven?

Was Mohammed raised from the dead? Did he do miracles? Do his followers do miracles?

I agree with promoting peace in the hearts of men and in the world but truth must be promoted also and the ‘right’ Savior has to be recognized or it is all futile.

I thank you for kindly considering these questions. May the Lord’s peace be with you and your family.

paarsurrey Says:

Hi

May GodAllahYHWH bless you!

Would you kindly explain as to why the CatholicsProtestants are ready to forgive Paul for his animosity towards Jesus and his followers; yet an incident that occurred due to a mistake by Moses, they call him a murderer.

Why according to peaceful Catholics, Jesus selected a murderer Paul with his clever vision to make him a hero of the Catholics?

What would a murderer train the people for?

Was it a mistake on the part of Catholic-Jesus-God or the Catholic- Jesus-the-perfect-man?

Kindly let Jesus remain a perfect man at least. To me, Jesus was never a god.

I love Jesus and would defend him against Paul’s clever scheming.

This discussion is only in search of truth, please; everyone has the right to differ with me with sound arguments, no compulsion.

Thanks

 

[planten]

** That is interesting. Calling Moses sinful (on two counts perhaps) but forgiving Paul completely. That is not fair.

Adam and Moses made mistake (without any intention). That is called sin. Paul killed many beloved followers of Jesus. He should be a greater sinner than all others.

Could the Catholics please make this matter clear about why they are following a murderer? Most of the bibleNT is the work of that murderer, a sinner. I do not mind calling Jesus a sinless person and would not mind if any one followed in the footsteps of Jesus.
But to give credit to a murderer, that is not fair. And to select a murderer to do some special work for the poor christians (i.e. to lead them) is also a serious matter. Who selected Paul and why? And we also see clearly that while Jesus never said a word against the law, this fellow Paul comes and abondons the law. But christians are happy with what he did.

Only the christians can understand that problem.

Please remember that Paul murdered poor innocent christians (followers of Jesus) without any reason. No one had killed or harmed Paul. No one had persecuted Paul. But he killed the believers. Please do not relate this case with peaceful Moses or Muhammad who were persecuted by their enemies (Kafirs).
**

 

[Jay53]

Hi

I today received a post on my blog from one of my Christian friends/brothers in humanity which somewhat relates to the issue.

I want to share it with my friends here:

Was Moses a murderer like Paul was a murderer of Jesus’ followers?

This did not answer my questions.

 

[jblake]

paarsurrey;:

Jesus could have refused it if he had the free will, in my opinion. Did he have a free will or not?

The Garden of Gethsemane pericopes and the pericopes on the first six hours on the cross have been used by both Bible sceptics, and Christians to support the hypothesis that Jesus had free will.

jonathon

 

[jblake]

swariffin;:

Because Quran said so. Are you against what is written explicitly in Quran??

Inasmuch as the entire q’ran is demonstrably false, the fact that the q’ran says someth8ing is evidence that the claim is false.

jonathon