I have to wonder if Matthew Hess, the originator of the cartoon is any relation to Rudolf Hess (Hitler’s Deputy).
I am not sure that is accurate. Granted, the ballot initiative currently being discussed is taking place in San Francisco. But Matthew Hess lives in San Diego, hundreds of miles away. And San Diego seems the base of the so called “Male Genital Mutilation” movement. Hess’ organization has been submitting draft legislation to every member of the US Congress for the past seven or eight years. And they are drafting legislation which could could be introduced into the state legislature of each of the 50 states of the US. However, Hess and Co. are having trouble finding legislative sponsors. The citizen ballot initiative, as in the city of San Francisco, gets around that problem.
To be fair to all people named Hess, its not an unusual surname. In the US, it is the #602 most common name. Not high on the list, to be sure, but more common than names such as York, or Callahan or Carey.
Yes, and because such a law would be an unwarranted restriction on religious practice, I think the law would quickly be suspended by the courts and then declared unconstitutional. However, I also think the proposed law doesn’t stand a chance of passing. And anti-Semitic literature such as the “comic” will sink what little chance it did have at winning voter approval.
No one has the luxury to be silent, no one should make the mistake that in the end it doesn’t concern them. The Archbishop understands this and has spoken out.
Well said, chosen people, well said.You have to love the irony
You would think that all these millions of men who have had their “genitals mutilated” who suffered “unspeakable pain” whose “sex lives were ruined forever” would be lining up to protest, but this is the main group arguing against banning circumcision
San Francisco, whose large Gay community argued throughout the years to not apply religious and social mores to the them, is the center of a movement to apply personal preferences on others.
One of leaders of the anti-circumcision movement wrote an anti-Semitic Nazi like propaganda comic book to support his cause - he has the Nazi sounding name of Hess.
Some Catholics of this forum wrote that they agreed that parents having their children circumcised would be tantamount to genital mutilation - as Jesus was circumcised - it would follow they are claiming that Jesus’ parents carried out an act of genital mutilation on Jesus:shrug:
The truth of the matter is that the anti-circumcision movement is in essence no different then the movements against Jewish ritual slaughter of meat or the movement against the right of the Jewish State of Israel to exist,or the movement against allowing an eruv to be put up in a community or the movement to not allow the erection a sukkah on your balcony during sukkot in your apartment building co-op. It is about making non legitimate Jews, Judaism and the Jewish State. Ban the ability for a Jew to be a Jew, you ban the Jews. . Some 65 years after the Shoah its lessons have already began to be forgotten, or perhaps they were never learned. No one has the luxury to be silent, no one should make the mistake that in the end it doesn’t concern them. The Archbishop understands this and has spoken out.
Exactly right.
If this was a ban on female circumcision (one of the politer names for Female Genital Mutilation) or circumcision in general, I think it would be a good thing.
If this was a ban on female circumcision (one of the politer names for Female Genital Mutilation) or circumcision in general, I think it would be a good thing.
But just male circumcision?
What’s the point?
Its a relatively minor surgical operation that has only a minor effect on a man’s sexual pleasure and performance. Now what savages in places like Egypt (and increasingly among communities of such people in the West) are doing to the privates of defenseless little girls is another matter entirely
israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/144973
While I agree with you that the proposed ban is absurd, the national problems facing the US are unrelated. To say that Americans should be concerned about nothing but the wars and recession (which are both very important topics) is not warranted because being concerned about them does not preclude being concerned about other issues.
Baptism actually does something for salvation.
Perhaps, but many adults (some Christian, some not) reject that belief about infant baptism. Moreover, some atheists are annoyed enough by the knowledge that they were baptized against their will that they purchase de-baptism certificates or hold de-baptism ceremonies.
Which for those who do not believe in the soul or God at all makes no difference. If there is no soul on which baptism can work it’s ontological change, then they were merely given a slight head rinse and some nice smelling oils, no harm done.