12 Russian intel officers indicted for DNC hacking in Mueller investigation

[JonNC]

Wow, you both don’t do any new research into the topic and repeat a right wing talking point that it was only $2500 for the 4th time and also project onto the Democrats. Smells like something’s up there.

Project?
Are you saying that the Uranium One deal didn’t happen, that Russia did not invade Crimea, and Obama did not send tens of billions of dollars in cash to close Russia ally Iran? This is projection? I’m not doing research?

Let’s be clear here. Of the three events I’ve listed, two were actions taken by the Obama administration. It isn’t like they couldn’t stop it.
The third one, Crimea, Obama simply allowed it to happen.

$1.7 billion in cash. And guess what close Russia ally Iran does with that cash from Obama?

The U.S. government has traced some of the $1.7 billion released to Iran by the Obama administration to Iranian-backed terrorists in the two years since the cash was transferred.

According to knowledgeable sources, Iran has used the funds to pay its main proxy, the Lebanon-based terrorist group Hezbollah, along with the Quds Force, Iran’s main foreign intelligence and covert action arm and element of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps.

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These are facts, not projections. Hezbollah ends up with some of that Obama cash. It will be used, more than likely, against US ally Israel which seemed to be rather disliked by Obama.


The NRA claims it was $2513 in the letter to Wyden. Now, if you have proof , not speculation, not accusation, not anti-2nd propaganda, that it is more, please provide it.

 

[ucfengr]

It’s kind of jarring how quickly and completely Democrats have embraced full blown McCarthyism while at the same time embracing socialism.

 

[JonNC]

It’s kind of jarring how quickly and completely Democrats have embraced full blown McCarthyism while at the same time embracing socialism.

Not just socialism, authoritarian socialism (though it can be argued this is a redundancy).

I think it can also be argued that McCarthy was a novice by comparison

 

[Ridgerunner]

So you say, with no proof.

No. I don’t have the transcripts of his opposition.

But I’ll take Dershowitz’ word for it.

“As was pointed out to you both above and in previous threads, the judge who hard the case for the Boston four and found for them, plainly and unambiguously disagrees with you about Muller’” DVDJS

As you know, the judge didn’t address Mueller’s interference with attempt to obtain commutation, Nor did the judge address Mueller’s knowledge that the men were innocent. The judge no more exculpated Mueller of those things than she flew to the moon and back on roller skates.\

 

[LeafByNiggle]

LeafByNiggle:

So you say, with no proof.

No. I don’t have the transcripts of his opposition.

But I’ll take Dershowitz’ word for it.

Of course. You will take anyone’s word who agrees with you.

 

[F_Marturana]

I don’t get why one would listen to Dershowitz about this if he’s not involved in it at it’s been debunked.

Mueller had nothing to do with Bulger:

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“I was the federal judge who presided over a successful lawsuit brought against the government by two of those men and the families of the other two, who had died in prison. Based on the voluminous evidence submitted in the trial, and having written a 105-page decision awarding them $101.8 million, I can say without equivocation that Mr. Mueller, who worked in the United States attorney’s office in Boston from 1982 to 1988, including a brief stint as the acting head of the office, had no involvement in that case. He was never even mentioned.”

Sean Hannity himself admits he is not a journalist.

Fox News should scroll “this is not a news program” along the bottom of the show every 20 seconds

 

[ProVobis]

How is this helpful in defending Trump’s July 27th public statement of directing Russia to release those hacked/stolen emails? Or his June 7th statement for that matter?

 

[ucfengr]

I wasn’t aware that Trump had the authority to direct Russia to do anything. Did they comply with his order?

 

[Ridgerunner]

Of course. You will take anyone’s word who agrees with you.

Unnecessarily snide.

No, I was among those many Americans who believed Mueller was a “square guy” when he was first appointed, and I did even though I do not believe in “special prosecutors” and never did. I did begin to doubt him when he assembled a staff of Clinton partisans. When he appointed Weissman, a near-criminal, as his team leader who cost thousands of people their jobs by deceiving a court, I totally lost respect for Mueller. So should you have, instead of accusing me of accepting anyone’s word who agrees with me.

 

[ProVobis]

According to the timeline, it appears so.

 

[ucfengr]

Well good. Russian knows who’s the boss now. Making America Great Again…

 

[ProVobis]

Pat Buchanan should be proud of coming out with that phrase.

 

[dvdjs]

Are you saying that the Uranium One deal didn’t happen,

Certainly not as generally portrayed here and on conservative talk shows.

Crimea, Obama simply allowed it to happen.

This war crime was met strong sanctions; not sure what you or this administration would recommend

send tens of billions of dollars in cash to close Russia ally Iran

Have you forgotten about what unfreezing that money also brought?

 

[ucfengr]

Should I be sending him a royalty?

 

[Ridgerunner]

Frankly I don’t understand the unwillingness of the Trump supporters to let this investigation run its course. The attack on our system of government is an attack on all of use, left and right, R or D. We should treat it with the same unanimity as we did the 9/11 attacks.

So far this “investigation” has only crushed people who would not have been accused of anything but for the investigation itself. It’s a “perjury trap” just like all special prosecutions are.

And Mueller is spectacularly unconvincing when he indicts a bunch of Russians who will never even appear in court to dispute him. He might as well have Weissman type out a paper accusing Trump of all sorts of things and call that “evidence”.

 

[dvdjs]

Frankly I don’t understand the unwillingness of the Trump supporters to let this investigation run its course. The attack on our system of government is an attack on all of use, left and right, R or D. We should treat it with the same unanimity as we did the 9/11 attacks.

To be fair, many Republicans who support Trump also very strongly support Mueller and his investigation.
It it only some of his supporters that are cooperating with Trump;s attacking Law Enforcement and Justice.

 

[F_Marturana]

Did you feel that way when foreign nationals living abroad were indicted in federal court for terrorism charges?

 

[Ridgerunner]

Did you feel that way when foreign nationals living abroad were indicted in federal court for terrorism charges?

Not the issue. In this case, Mueller is indicting unreachable foreigners to make it look like there really was a “Russian collusion”, or at least a Russian involvement that mattered more than Obama or Clapper or anybody else thought. it’s a deception perpetrated on the American people.

With the foreign terrorists, there was at least some possibility of grabbing them somewhere. But I can assure you this country is not going to seize the head characters in Russia’s GRU even if they showed up in London or somewhere.

 

[grotto]

Now this is a response to a bunch of falsehoods!

 

[LeafByNiggle]

F_Marturana:

Did you feel that way when foreign nationals living abroad were indicted in federal court for terrorism charges?

Not the issue. In this case, Mueller is indicting unreachable foreigners to make it look like there really was a “Russian collusion”, or at least a Russian involvement that mattered more than Obama or Clapper or anybody else thought. it’s a deception perpetrated on the American people.

With the foreign terrorists, there was at least some possibility of grabbing them somewhere. But I can assure you this country is not going to seize the head characters in Russia’s GRU even if they showed up in London or somewhere.

Why not? …