2012 Presidential Poll

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If we didn’t even have a President or a Congress for the last 2.5 years, we would be better off than we are now.
True.

I am working off of my own observation that the man is actively working to harm this country.
His incompetence is keeping us from being harmed as much as we could be.
 
I’ll be voting Republican.
Right now, that is the only logical choice for a Catholic who is serious about the issue of promoting the sanctity of life and opposing the culture of death. Unfortunately the other side (the die-hard Democrat catholics) twist that around and say: “the Catholic Church does not say we have to vote for the GOP.” etc. It is amazing what hatred of a party (in this case hatred of the GOP by Democrat catholics) can bring one to do.

Ishii
 
Right now, that is the only logical choice for a Catholic who is serious about the issue of promoting the sanctity of life and opposing the culture of death. Unfortunately the other side (the die-hard Democrat catholics) twist that around and say: “the Catholic Church does not say we have to vote for the GOP.” etc. It is amazing what hatred of a party (in this case hatred of the GOP by Democrat catholics) can bring one to do.

Ishii
Are you saying Republicans don’t hate the Democrat party? :rolleyes:

There are many issues to weigh when voting. The ‘hatred’ of the Democrat party by some Republicans seems to be based on other issues, even if they say, or infer, they’re single issue voters.
 
Are you saying Republicans don’t hate the Democrat party? :rolleyes:

There are many issues to weigh when voting. The ‘hatred’ of the Democrat party by some Republicans seems to be based on other issues, even if they say, or infer, they’re single issue voters.
I can only speak for myself, but I don’t hate the party, that’s lumping people together. I do hate what the once proud party has come to stand for. It is not the same party I belonged to some years ago.
 
Are you saying Republicans don’t hate the Democrat party? :rolleyes:

There are many issues to weigh when voting. The ‘hatred’ of the Democrat party by some Republicans seems to be based on other issues, even if they say, or infer, they’re single issue voters.
I don’t hate the Democrat Party. In fact I was a Democrat up until 1980. But I do hate is their support of unrestricted taxpayer funded abortion on demand. The truth is that abortion is not merely another political issue that Catholics can banter back and forth about.
 
I don’t hate the Democrat Party. In fact I was a Democrat up until 1980. But I do hate is their support of unrestricted taxpayer funded abortion on demand. The truth is that abortion is not merely another political issue that Catholics can banter back and forth about.
Bob, we can agree on the bantering. Where the disagreement lies is in the ‘blind’ following of any politician’s statements. Where does that leave someone who doubts the truthfulness behind some politician’s claims, either doubting his/her beliefs or that the statements/actions aren’t purely to gain a bloc of voters for other issues?
 
Bob, we can agree on the bantering. Where the disagreement lies is in the ‘blind’ following of any politician’s statements. Where does that leave someone who doubts the truthfulness behind some politician’s claims, either doubting his/her beliefs or that the statements/actions aren’t purely to gain a bloc of voters for other issues?
You are, of course ,free to not vote for somebody who you feel is not sincere.
 
Are you saying Republicans don’t hate the Democrat party? :rolleyes:

There are many issues to weigh when voting. The ‘hatred’ of the Democrat party by some Republicans seems to be based on other issues, even if they say, or infer, they’re single issue voters.
I hate the Democratic Party, not Democrats themselves…well, most of them anyway.
 
Are you saying Republicans don’t hate the Democrat party? :rolleyes:

There are many issues to weigh when voting. The ‘hatred’ of the Democrat party by some Republicans seems to be based on other issues, even if they say, or infer, they’re single issue voters.
I don’t doubt that there are some. If there was a Democrat pro-life candidate who was better than the GOP candidate but the voter voted for the GOP out of hatred of the Democrat party then that voter would be wrong to do so imo. In my experience on this thread as well as in conversations with others, there are Catholics who refuse to vote for the pro-life candidate because he is a Republican. I find the common thread among them is that they believe their faith requires them to vote for the party which wants to continue to tax people and redistrubute the wealth. They believe they are helping the poor, which is required of us as Christians. Oddly enough, some of the worst hatred of the GOP that I’ve noticed is found on the far right - people who once supported the GOP but feel betrayed by them. Nothing short of perfection will do for them - that is why they often support things like the Constitution party which has no chance of winning.

Ishii
 
Wow, a majority of the people on these forums would vote for a Republican not knowing who it will be? That’s interesting…

I think it’s too early to tell.
 
Wow, a majority of the people on these forums would vote for a Republican not knowing who it will be? That’s interesting…

I think it’s too early to tell.
What would you expect on a Catholic forum? Since a Catholic cannot licitily vote for Barack Obama it kind of limits our options, doesn’t it?
 
My answer to the poll would be: I will vote for the Republican Nominee if the nominee is a pro-life libertarian leaning Republican.

If not, I will vote third party.
 
What would you expect on a Catholic forum? Since a Catholic cannot licitily vote for Barack Obama…
…unless either Ms. Palin or Rep. Bachmann is the GOP nominee. I would then consider it my duty to my country to vote for President Obama , whom I wouldn’t vote for ordinarily.
 
Wow, a majority of the people on these forums would vote for a Republican not knowing who it will be? That’s interesting…

I think it’s too early to tell.
Actually it makes perfect sense given that we know that the Democrat candidate will be Obama and that since I started voting I have been more or less okay with voting for the GOP candidate over the Democrat.

Ishii
 
My answer to the poll would be: I will vote for the Republican Nominee if the nominee is a pro-life libertarian leaning Republican.

If not, I will vote third party.
Which candidates that have been talked about fit that description, do you think? Which ones don’t?

Ishii
 
Which candidates that have been talked about fit that description, do you think? Which ones don’t?

Ishii
Ron Paul. 👍

The only other libertarian leaning Republican in the field is Gary Johnson, but he is pro-choice, so he ain’t going anywhere.
 
Which candidates that have been talked about fit that description, do you think?
Ron Paul is my choice so far. The other candidates have a year to show their libertarian stripes. Jon Huntsman is libertarian leaning (or at least he seems it). While I agree the most with Paul, Huntsman is another candidate I mostly agree with. If Huntsman enters and does fairly well, I’ll most likely switch my support over to him. But so far, Ron Paul is the only one.

Gov. Johnson is another person who I agree with. In fact, I will say that I agree with him on everything but abortion, so I will not be able to vote for him.

And I’ll consider Herman Cain.

But my first two choices are Paul and Huntsman.
Which ones don’t?
Santorum (the furthest from libertarian in the GOP field)
Bachmann
Pawlenty
Gingrich
 
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