2012 Presidential Poll

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Ron Paul is my choice so far. The other candidates have a year to show their libertarian stripes. Jon Huntsman is libertarian leaning (or at least he seems it). While I agree the most with Paul, Huntsman is another candidate I mostly agree with. If Huntsman enters and does fairly well, I’ll most likely switch my support over to him. But so far, Ron Paul is the only one.
I like Huntsman too, but would like to learn more about him. Among the candidates who can actually make a difference, are there any other than Huntsman that have a chance to win?

I don’t think Pawlenty is necessarily a libertarian, but I would consider him a fiscal conservative. I think there is too much at stake for us to waste our vote on candidates with no chance to win.

Ishii
 
How about Huntsman?
I mentioned that already. If Huntsman enters the race, I will seriously consider supporting him over Paul. So far those are the only two I would vote for.
 
Who’s he? At least most people know who Ron Paul is, even if he doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of winning.
Jon Huntsman is the former governor of Utah and former Ambassador to China. Since he’s Mormon people are calling him the anti-Romney :rotfl:
 
I suspect in the next few weeks most voting repubicans will become familiar with Huntsman. Right now he is making sure they know who he is where it counts in New Hampshire
Ya, now I recall the story of him resigning as Ambassador to China. We’ll see. 🤷 Of the sack cloth Republicans, I like Herman Cain, if nothing more than it puts a bullet in the head of the race issue. If he gets the GOP nod, I want to hear Christiana Amanpour make the race about…errr…race.
 
Ya, now I recall the story of him resigning as Ambassador to China. We’ll see. 🤷 Of the sack cloth Republicans, I like Herman Cain, if nothing more than it puts a bullet in the head of the race issue. If he gets the GOP nod, I want to hear Christiana Amanpour make the race about…errr…race.
They’ll find a way; believe me. The best thing about being a liberal (which still isn’t all that much) is you can contradict yourself all the time without regret since the whole platform is based on emotional arguments.
 
They’ll find a way; believe me. The best thing about being a liberal (which still isn’t all that much) is you can contradict yourself all the time without regret since the whole platform is based on emotional arguments.
Point.
 
Who’s he? At least most people know who Ron Paul is, even if he doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of winning.
And that’s true about Ron Paul - people do know him. But that’s his problem - people know him and don’t want to vote for him.

Ishii
 
And that’s true about Ron Paul - people do know him. But that’s his problem - people know him and don’t want to vote for him.

Ishii
You should expand your circle of reading. Ron Paul has quite the youth following, rivalling that of Obama. He is also a heck of a fundraiser as well.
 
Who was Bill Clinton in 1991? Who was Jimmy Carter in 1975?

Ishii
Around this time during the 1976 and 1992 elections both Gov. Clinton and Gov. Carter were only polling at around 2%.

It’s still too early to tell and never underestimate the unknowns.
Before the first GOP debate this season, barely anyone knew who Herman Cain was, but look at this after the debate:
youtube.com/watch?v=Cz1bj2q6hbs

There is hope for Ron Paul and Huntsman.
 
You should expand your circle of reading. Ron Paul has quite the youth following, rivalling that of Obama. He is also a heck of a fundraiser as well.
That’s right, I’m 18 years old and a proud member of the Ron Paul Revolution.

In 2008 Paul’s campaign made history by raising the most money in one day online. Money bombs have been popular for the Paul campaign and his supporters.

And this time around, his ideas are more mainstream and people are actually discussing his ideas.
 
And this time around, his ideas are more mainstream and people are actually discussing his ideas.
Do you think he really has a chance this time, though? As long as this farcical 2-party system is in place I don’t think he stands much chance of even being nominated.
 
You should expand your circle of reading. Ron Paul has quite the youth following, rivalling that of Obama. He is also a heck of a fundraiser as well.
I have read enough to know that Ron Paul won’t be the nominee, nor will he win as a 3rd party candidate. In the Real Clear Politics average of polls, Paul currently is tied with Herman Cain with 8.3%. But the poll includes non-candidates Palin and Guliani (with 14.7% and 12.3%). One has to wonder where their supporters will go once (and if) they don’t end up running.

Ishii
 
That’s right, I’m 18 years old and a proud member of the Ron Paul Revolution.

In 2008 Paul’s campaign made history by raising the most money in one day online. Money bombs have been popular for the Paul campaign and his supporters.

And this time around, his ideas are more mainstream and people are actually discussing his ideas.
Go back and read up on the our country’s electoral history and see how many 77 year old congressmen have been elected president.

Ishii
 
I have read enough to know that Ron Paul won’t be the nominee, nor will he win as a 3rd party candidate. In the Real Clear Politics average of polls, Paul currently is tied with Herman Cain with 8.3%. But the poll includes non-candidates Palin and Guliani (with 14.7% and 12.3%). One has to wonder where their supporters will go once (and if) they don’t end up running.

Ishii
Once the non-hackers get dumped and the race tightens up, the economy will continue to grow worse and Paul will continue his anti-fed, anti-bailout, anti-entitlement mantra and he will pick up steam. Constitency has it benefits, plus Paul is a prolific writer and his themes of stable money and market competition have gained traction. Plus, as I’ve said, he has a significant youth following, plus he has the chance of picking up significant members of the older crowd…you know, because he is so old. Palin isn’t running, and I think Romney will burn bright early but he can’t outrun his past. I think that ROn’s anti-never ending war message is ringing stronger as these two modern day Vietnams keep raging on and deteriorating.
 
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