2012 Republican Presidential Nomination

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I live in Iowa so i’m getting plenty of mail from all of the candidates and thankfully, since the land line was ditched in favor of cell phone only, the Iowa GOP doesn’t have my cell phone number and it’s going to stay that way 😉

I’m not overly crazy about politics, so I just ignore all of the coverage, but as the Caucauses (sp?) get closer, i’m sure i’ll start paying attention to the coverage. That said I am intrigued a bit by Gov. Perry.
 
garn9173 said:
I live in Iowa so i’m getting plenty of mail from all of the candidates and thankfully, since the land line was ditched in favor of cell phone only, the Iowa GOP doesn’t have my cell phone number and it’s going to stay that way 😉

I’m not overly crazy about politics, so I just ignore all of the coverage, but as the Caucauses (sp?) get closer, i’m sure i’ll start paying attention to the coverage. That said I am intrigued a bit by Gov. Perry.
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Good luck in the upcoming months leading up to Feb.
 
Big_Ro said:
gallup.com/poll/149180/Perry-Zooms-Front-Pack-2012-GOP-Nomination.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=syndication&utm_content=morelink&utm_term=Americas%20-%20Politics%20-%20USA

publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_US_0824513.pdf

Two new polls out today. Top link is for Gallup. Shows Perry taking a commanding lead from Romney.

Second link is for a PPP poll that shows Perry with a double digit lead over Romney. Bachman and Paul trail.

Perry will be the nominee.
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Well, if so I’ll probably be sitting this one out.
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
Well, if so I’ll probably be sitting this one out.
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Why? I would vote for Ron Paul without any reservations, if he is the Republican nominee. What is so disgusting about the other Republicans that you would prefer Obama to win?
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
Well, if so I’ll probably be sitting this one out.
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Hey, some of us need to keep the bench warm.

But there is another option. Have you ever considered voting for Brian Moore. I have some literature fr you in my trunk… 😃
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rlg94086:
Why? I would vote for Ron Paul without any reservations, if he is the Republican nominee. What is so disgusting about the other Republicans that you would prefer Obama to win?
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I can’t speak for Scott, but I can say of myself that, sometimes, voting for a supposed ‘lesser evil’ seems like an appeasement of the problems of society in general. An acceptance of the choice laid before you between two unworthy options. Some prefer to reject the choice altogether, in hope that someday it will not foisted upon us. Enough sophistry from me for one post.

Also, there’s the knowledge that the election will turn out one way or another, utterly regardless of whether or not I vote, and that the likelihood of my vote influencing even my city’s mayoral election is less than the likelihood that I will beaten by a grizzly bear tomorrow upon leaving my house. Perhaps I’ve taken one too many statistics classes 🤷
 
Raskolnikov said:
Also, there’s the knowledge that the election will turn out one way or another, utterly regardless of whether or not I vote, and that the likelihood of my vote influencing even my city’s mayoral election is less than the likelihood that I will beaten by a grizzly bear tomorrow upon leaving my house. Perhaps I’ve taken one too many statistics classes 🤷
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Or perhaps you haven’t looked at Florida in the 2000 presidential election. Or the 2004 gubernatorial race in Washington between Dino Rossi and Christine Gregoire. It was decided by a couple hundred of votes.

Ishii
 
Raskolnikov said:
I can’t speak for Scott, but I can say of myself that, sometimes, voting for a supposed ‘lesser evil’ seems like an appeasement of the problems of society in general. An acceptance of the choice laid before you between two unworthy options. Some prefer to reject the choice altogether, in hope that someday it will not foisted upon us. Enough sophistry from me for one post.
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It’s not choosing a “lesser evil”. We can never choose to do evil, or vote for it. Rather by voting for Obama’s rival we choose to limit the evil the president will do by voting for a candidate who, although imperfect, will not do as much harm. That is why the nomination process is so critical, so we don’t end up with someone nearly as bad as the current president.
 
rlg94086 said:
Why? I would vote for Ron Paul without any reservations, if he is the Republican nominee. What is so disgusting about the other Republicans that you would prefer Obama to win?
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Me too. But it is a symptom of the fact that many of his supporters really don’t trust him. Ron Paul says that he will not run as a third-party candidate and will support the Republican nominee for president. Yet we have many of his supporters telling us they will sit the general election out if Ron Paul is not the Republican nominee Evidently they trust Ron Paul enough to want him to be President of the United States but don’t trust his judgment when he says he will support the Republican nominee. Go figure.
 
estesbob said:
Me too. But it is a symptom of the fact that many of his supporters really don’t trust him. Ron Paul says that he will not run as a third-party candidate and will support the Republican nominee for president. Yet we have many of his supporters telling us they will sit the general election out if Ron Paul is not the Republican nominee Evidently they trust Ron Paul enough to want him to be President of the United States but don’t trust his judgment when he says he will support the Republican nominee. Go figure.
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I would vote for Ron Paul too, but it would be with great sadness as I am pretty sure he would get trounced in the general election against Obama. Then we’d have four more years of the most pro-abortion president in our history.

Incidentally, I didn’t know that Ron Paul has announced that he’d support the GOP nominee. I can see him supporting Perry, but I am not sure about Romney.

Ishii
 
estesbob said:
Me too. But it is a symptom of the fact that many of his supporters really don’t trust him. Ron Paul says that he will not run as a third-party candidate and will support the Republican nominee for president. Yet we have many of his supporters telling us they will sit the general election out if Ron Paul is not the Republican nominee Evidently they trust Ron Paul enough to want him to be President of the United States but don’t trust his judgment when he says he will support the Republican nominee. Go figure.
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I can’t understand why a Paul supporter would sit home and help re-elect the worst president we have had in my lifetime. It’s kind of like the little girl who said “if I can’t be princess, I won’t play.”🙂
 
mary_bobo said:
I can’t understand why a Paul supporter would sit home and help re-elect the worst president we have had in my lifetime. It’s kind of like the little girl who said “if I can’t be princess, I won’t play.”🙂
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Some people prefer to sit on the sidelines when tough decisions have to be made. They think it allows them to throw stones at both sides after the ellection is over but personally I could not care less about the opinions of someone who didn’t vote or wasted their vote on a nonviable third-party canidate.
 
estesbob said:
Some people prefer to sit on the sidelines when tough decisions have to be made. They think it allows them to throw stones at both sides after the ellection is over but personally I could not care less about the opinions of someone who didn’t vote or wasted their vote on a nonviable third-party canidate.
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Maybe you should work harder to convince the people who plan on voting for Obama to not support “the greater of two evils”, rather than convince people who’d rather not vote for a pro-war, pro-big-government candidate to go support “the lesser of two evils”. It is the people who vote FOR Obama who will put him in office, not the people who don’t vote for him.
 
estesbob said:
Some people prefer to sit on the sidelines when tough decisions have to be made. They think it allows them to throw stones at both sides after the ellection is over but personally I could not care less about the opinions of someone who didn’t vote or wasted their vote on a nonviable third-party canidate.
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mary_bobo said:
I can’t understand why a Paul supporter would sit home and help re-elect the worst president we have had in my lifetime. It’s kind of like the little girl who said “if I can’t be princess, I won’t play.”🙂
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What if you’re choices are “You can’t play the princess, you have to be the garden troll”.
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
Maybe you should work harder to convince the people who plan on voting for Obama to not support “the greater of two evils”, rather than convince people who’d rather not vote for a pro-war, pro-big-government candidate to go support “the lesser of two evils”. It is the people who vote FOR Obama who will put him in office, not the people who don’t vote for him.
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We need to do both. Currently on this forum there are probably more of the latter kind than the former.
 
There is not much issue here, the nomination process, like the election is out of our hand. I read an article on another site that the Catholic church seems to turn its head on politics and politicians that say there catholic but vote abortion or other catholic issues. The article went on to mention Kerry of Massachusetts, Kennedy of Massachusetts, and gangsters of the Mafia, that continue to have catholic mass said at their funerals. But, we as catholics ourselves tend to over look certain voting records of our politicians, and continue to vote for those that have not upheld catholic ideas. Then we go on to say, well he is a good politician in my district, I don’t agree with everything he does or says, but will vote for him again. I am catholic and very proud of it, however, I also am guilty of the political fraud that is a catholic politician.
 
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