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Scott_Lafrance
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Ya, because the legacy of racism has improved so much since the Civil Rights Act was passed.
youtube.com/watch?v=D4F8ob9nlfY
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youtube.com/watch?v=D4F8ob9nlfY
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Wolseley
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The Berrigans.
Holy Mother of God. :doh2:
Holy Mother of God. :doh2:
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Beau_Ouiville
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Quick, name three Catholics prominent in the US Civil Rights Movement! Quick!
Give up?
From Catholic University: “Catholic support for the civil rights movement was weak in the late 1950s, and only increased slowly in the early 1960s. The American Catholic Church tended to be ambivalent in its support for integration: the bishops generally supported the ideals of equality and racial justice, but were hesitant to take any steps to implement integration in their dioceses. … While the Catholic Church as an institution never played a leading role in the civil rights movement, those black and white Catholics who participated in demonstrations and spoke out concerning Catholic social teachings helped promote the cause of equality.”
archives.lib.cua.edu/education/pfp/PFP-civil.cfm
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Robert_Bay
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This thread is wandering, please stay on the topic of the Republican Presidential Nomination
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Housewife5
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Other: Rick Santorum
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jediliz
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Ditto. Catholic AND Pro life!
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ishii
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You’re changing the subject, which is telling. The poster correctly pointed out that you are wrong in saying that you’re vote will neither help nor hurt other candidates. Now you want to change the subject.
To those who are thinking of sitting the election out if their “perfect candidate” doesn’t get the nomination I would say " all that’s necessary for Obama to triumph is for good men to not vote."
And I know that I am discussing these issues with good men.
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JMJSHJ
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Shouldn’t need laws? Yes you are right, we shouldn’t. However do we need those laws? Yes we do and history bears us out.
Racism isn’t just a spiritual problem but a civil one too. Just as abortion isn’t just a spiritual problem, neither is racism.
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Caldera
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It’s too bad he isn’t doing better. He is a likeable guy with a good position on the issues.
The next debate in September should be important for everyone. Perry will have to be on his toes to make a good first impression or risk falling back.
Huntsman should pack it in, and Palin should join in. (complete w/ cheerleader outfit
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jam070406
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Obama is just another puppet for corporate interest and the banking cartel. Telling Scott that wasting his vote on Paul only reinforces the myth that there is no other option but the two establishment props. Real change will never happen with such an attitude. Paul, and many Americans, want to shake up the good old boy club that offers lip service and only serves their own lust of power. The establishment fears Paul’s message. The media ignores him. And people like you perpetuate the fear mongering and guilt trips which help to serve the establishment and crush the hope of REAL change.
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gilliam
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PATAKI WILL NOT RUN: CNN’s Mark Preston cites a source close to former New York Gov. George Pataki to report that he will not run for president. “Pataki, who had been flirting with a White House bid for months, was scheduled to appear this weekend in the key early voting state of Iowa,” Preston writes. “Speculation was that the former three-term governor would announce his candidacy Saturday at the Polk County Republican fundraiser. But the source said that Pataki, who seriously considered running, has decided instead to forgo a run for the GOP nomination.” http://bit.ly/ozS5eu
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RACJ
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It’s too bad he isn’t doing better. He is a likeable guy with a good position on the issues.
The next debate in September should be important for everyone. Perry will have to be on his toes to make a good first impression or risk falling back.
Huntsman should pack it in, and Palin should join in. (complete w/ cheerleader outfit
Apparently you can't take a serious woman seriously. Our country is in steep decline, and people had better open their eyes quickly. We can't afford to lose our chance to elect the BEST candidate, and that is Sarah Palin. I wonder if some people would be more comfortable if she was unhappy, and acted, dressed and cut her hair short like a guy. She is a woman, and thankful to be one, and she LIKES men. That fact should not be belittled, certainly not on a Catholic website. :rolleyes: Rob
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ishii
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Well, I think overturning Roe V WAde, for example would be the kind of real change that I would like to begin with. I am much more interested in protecting the unborn than in voting for the guy who wants to go back to the gold standard. As a Catholic, I do have priorities.
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ishii
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There is a lot to like about Palin, such as her committment to the sanctity of life. But I would prefer a candidate that is both pro-life and can speak and argue authoritatively and coherently on other issues such as foreign policy.Apparently you can’t take a serious woman seriously. Our country is in steep decline, and people had better open their eyes quickly. We can’t afford to lose our chance to elect the BEST candidate, and that is Sarah Palin. I wonder if some people would be more comfortable if she was unhappy, and acted, dressed and cut her hair short like a guy. She is a woman, and thankful to be one, and she LIKES men. That fact should not be belittled, certainly not on a Catholic website.Rob
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Caldera
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Sorry RACJ, I had no intention of belittling her. I think she is great. I meant that she should join the race already and bring her enthusiasm. I don’t, however, think she has a good chance to win at this point, but you never know. The thing that bothers me is why she would wait so long to enter the race if she really was serious about becoming President.Apparently you can’t take a serious woman seriously. Our country is in steep decline, and people had better open their eyes quickly. We can’t afford to lose our chance to elect the BEST candidate, and that is Sarah Palin. I wonder if some people would be more comfortable if she was unhappy, and acted, dressed and cut her hair short like a guy. She is a woman, and thankful to be one, and she LIKES men. That fact should not be belittled, certainly not on a Catholic website.
There is too much at stake in the next election. But again, whoever wins the GOP nomination gets my vote.
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Big_Ro
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politico.com/news/stories/0811/62074.html
Sarah Palin out for two-fifths of Republicans, poll finds
A nugget from today’s Pew poll that deserves a post of its own: Forty-one percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning voters say there is “no chance” they would vote for Sarah Palin in a presidential race.
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That’s the second-highest rejection rate of any Republican candidate, exceeded only by Newt Gingrich, who was ruled out by 48 percent of respondents.
Palin’s poll numbers are comparable to, or even slightly worse than, Ron Paul’s. Despite being viewed by many as a fringe or fringe-friendly figure, Paul has 21 percent of Republicans who say there’s a “good chance” they’d vote for him, and 37 percent who say there’s “some chance.”
Sarah Palin out for two-fifths of Republicans, poll finds
A nugget from today’s Pew poll that deserves a post of its own: Forty-one percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning voters say there is “no chance” they would vote for Sarah Palin in a presidential race.
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That’s the second-highest rejection rate of any Republican candidate, exceeded only by Newt Gingrich, who was ruled out by 48 percent of respondents.
Palin’s poll numbers are comparable to, or even slightly worse than, Ron Paul’s. Despite being viewed by many as a fringe or fringe-friendly figure, Paul has 21 percent of Republicans who say there’s a “good chance” they’d vote for him, and 37 percent who say there’s “some chance.”
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Raskolnikov
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Thanks Big Ro. That seems pretty consistent with Republicans I know. My father is a big conservative and he dreads the idea of her getting the nomination. I know a couple who like her, but even in a group of conservatives advocating for her seems to elicit disagreement.
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Big_Ro
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politico.com/news/stories/0811/62090.html
Clock ticking on Sarah Palin entry into 2012 presidential race
The former Alaska governor seems to believe that most of the rules of politics don’t apply to her — that with her media appeal and her grass-roots following, she could waltz into the presidential campaign at the 11th hour and make a go of it.
But if she does want to run for president, she’ll have to get on the ballot. Palin has gestured vaguely at various self-imposed deadlines — the latest being late September — but there are some drop-dead dates that she cannot escape, starting with Oct. 31.
That’s the day presidential candidates’ names have to be submitted for inclusion on the primary ballot in Florida. By the next day, candidates have to file for the South Carolina primary ballot — along with a $25,000 fee. And the deadlines for other states come fast and furious after that. It’s $1,000 by Nov. 18 in New Hampshire. On Dec. 5, thousands of signed petitions are due in Illinois.
Clock ticking on Sarah Palin entry into 2012 presidential race
The former Alaska governor seems to believe that most of the rules of politics don’t apply to her — that with her media appeal and her grass-roots following, she could waltz into the presidential campaign at the 11th hour and make a go of it.
But if she does want to run for president, she’ll have to get on the ballot. Palin has gestured vaguely at various self-imposed deadlines — the latest being late September — but there are some drop-dead dates that she cannot escape, starting with Oct. 31.
That’s the day presidential candidates’ names have to be submitted for inclusion on the primary ballot in Florida. By the next day, candidates have to file for the South Carolina primary ballot — along with a $25,000 fee. And the deadlines for other states come fast and furious after that. It’s $1,000 by Nov. 18 in New Hampshire. On Dec. 5, thousands of signed petitions are due in Illinois.
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Big_Ro
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Sure. I read these articles last night as I was nodding off on the couch. I saw the above posters bring her in to the mix and these sprang to mind. I have always been fascinated in the disconnect between the tremendous amount o media attention she gets and the lack of support she gets amongst real Republican voters.
I have not really seen any evidence that she has any sort of active apparatus working, even behind the scenes or under the radar that is substantial enough to get her campaign off the ground in short order. Even when Perry was only suggesting he might get in the race, there was a goodly amount of reporting on strategic moves being made quietly by operatives with ties to him or his aides. The exodus from Gingrich, while denied at the time, was immediately connected to Perry and indeed it looks as though it was true. Besides the guy in Iowa, I really don’t see an organization out there. This isn’t to say that given the enthusiasm of her core group she couldn’t get one up and running. But every minute that passes makes the task all the more difficult. I am back to thinking she won’t run, but she’s virtually impossible to predict. I read a quote that said she chose to become a celebrity rather than a reliable politician.
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mary_bobo
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I have said before, and I’ll say again, don’t worry about Palin. She is not going to get the nomination.
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