2016 Polls: Republican Candidate

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It is not only a serious agenda, it’s a dangerous agenda. Unfortunately, there are too many low-information and gullible voters out there, and they quite frankly, just aren’t paying attention. I’ve had the discussion with friends about there being a limited window to turn things around before it’s too late, and they think my spool has come unwound.
Yes! The low information voters are part of the problem. But the control of the senate might actually depend on whether the GOP guy wins in Kansas and I guess many of the true believers would rather have the abortion party control the senate rather than vote for an imperfect Republican that they only agree on 80% of the time.

Ishii
 
It is not only a serious agenda, it’s a dangerous agenda. Unfortunately, there are too many low-information and gullible voters out there, and they quite frankly, just aren’t paying attention. I’ve had the discussion with friends about there being a limited window to turn things around before it’s too late, and they think my spool has come unwound.
I think there are many voters out there who find abortion not to be a priority for them; some may find gun control, the environment, health care or immigration policy to be a bigger priority when it comes time for them to cast their ballot. For everyone there is usually a maker or breaker on how they’ll vote.
 
I am not a fan of Mitt Romney — BUT he is a thousand times better man than Barack Obama. Romney would not have been on a mission to diminish and destroy America and its Constitution, and he actually respects the people who take risks and help America succeed. Rob :o
I think romney would have made a good president in many ways. Unfortunately there are those who have such a high standard that it’s unlikely they will ever be satisfied with a GOP nominee. That is their right but I’ll always remind them that the effect of their actions is to make it easier for evil to prevail.

Ishii
Romney would have hurt the poor with his calloused job killing free trade policies, and his RECORD of supporting gay marriage and no action on abortion made him the top RINO candidate in 2012.

I will not vote for the lesser of two evils any more. I refuse to vote for anything evil as that is where true responsibility lies, not in boycotting the two duopolist candidates.

Vote for who you like more, not who you think can best win. That is why a lot of Germans voted for Adolph Hitler and look what that did for them.
 
Romney would have hurt the poor with his calloused job killing free trade policies, and his RECORD of supporting gay marriage and no action on abortion made him the top RINO candidate in 2012.

I will not vote for the lesser of two evils any more. I refuse to vote for anything evil as that is where true responsibility lies, not in boycotting the two duopolist candidates.

Vote for who you like more, not who you think can best win. That is why a lot of Germans voted for Adolph Hitler and look what that did for them.
So, in order to avoid supporting the “lesser of two evils” (as you see it) you will support the greater of them.

Romney said he changed his mind and became prolife. He never supported homosexual marriage. Which “free trade policies” of his that Obama doesn’t share, do you oppose? Please be specific.

And Hitler was not elected because most people supported him. He was elected because the vote against him was fragmented.

So, in voting for someone out of pride because they didn’t quite measure up on the expectations of some who claim to be conservative but act in a liberal manner by refusing to oppose them, some became complicit in the appointment of two pro-abortion judges on teh Supreme Court when they could have aided in the appointment of two prolife judges.

Neither McCain nor Romney could have possibly won second terms if they had appointed pro-abortion justices because their base would have evaporated. They knew that.

But Obama was openly pro-abortion and some refused to oppose him. By doing it, they refused to oppose abortion itself and are complicit in the killing of millions.

But again, if one votes in such a way as to support the liberals’ elections, one is really a liberal in fact if not in intent. Possibly in intent.
 
Jeb Bush married a Mexican Catholic girl in 1974 and converted to Catholicism in 1995. He is a fourth degree knight in the Knights of Columbus.

I think that’s about all I need to know.

Good roots. Smart people. Nice people. Servant leaders.
 
Jeb Bush married a Mexican Catholic girl in 1974 and converted to Catholicism in 1995. He is a fourth degree knight in the Knights of Columbus.

I think that’s about all I need to know.

Good roots. Smart people. Nice people. Servant leaders.
Well said. Jeb Bush is not my first choice, but I would definitely vote for him, and I think he is a decent honorable man.
Paul Ryan
I heard he will not run if Romney decides to run again. In any event, I think he’s a smart man who would be a good president, if not the best candidate.

Ishii
 
Romney would have hurt the poor with his calloused job killing free trade policies, and his RECORD of supporting gay marriage and no action on abortion made him the top RINO candidate in 2012.

I will not vote for the lesser of two evils any more. I refuse to vote for anything evil as that is where true responsibility lies, not in boycotting the two duopolist candidates.

Vote for who you like more, not who you think can best win. That is why a lot of Germans voted for Adolph Hitler and look what that did for them.
Your whole case is based on a smear of a good, decent man. Pretty hard to prove one is solid on abortion if you don’t get elected. Romney did choose a strong pro-life running mate in Ryan, and a contructionist stalwart - the enemy of the abortionists - in Robert Bork. And, as Ridgerunner said, Romney, being a smart man, would know that had he won the election and then not governed as a pro-life president, he would not have kept the support of social conservatives - which he would have needed for re-election.

Your case is based on falsities and ignorance of politics. In not voting for a good (but flawed) candidate, you allow the man committed to evil leftist policies to win. I don’t expect to convince you of anything - but I do hope that any conservative Catholics thinking of staying home for the next election are not swayed by false arguments, and don’t, by their inaction, allow evil to prevail.

Ishii
 
A good man is Virgil Goode from Virginia, he ran for the Constitution Party last time. I just tend to shy away from the party because it is small but I think there ideas are good. It’s from people like the CP that one can hear some things, a lot of people say the same thing. So, it’s not as if one is unique in how they might view Romney but he ran in 2008 on close to the same platform and I thought it was okay back then. He wasn’t my first choice, I was for Santorum but I could support the candidacy of Romney when the election came pretty easily.

He also would have cut a lot of the red tape and governmental waste away I believe.

Just my opinion.
 
Whoever wins the presidential election, I hope, can cure us of a dreadful disease known as Obola. It’s an airborne disease that seeks to reduce US wealth and power to atone for imagined oppression.

There seems to be no limit to what the disease can do. Its rapid spread has disturbed even members of the liberal mainstream media.

🙂 😃
 
Finally a poll with results I like. 😃

Santorum, Cruz and Ryan lead? 👍 How I wish ANY of those three were President today.

Here’s a link to a (softly anti- in my opinion) story on Santorum.

politico.com/story/2014/09/rick-santorum-returns-111408.html

The writer betrays her bias to the inevitability of (yet another) establishment Republican as the eventual GOP candidate - but give her credit - dutifully enumerates some of the pro-s that a Santorum candidacy enjoys … especially vs. last time (2012).

It is interesting to hear the takes by former Mc Cain and Romney campaign leaders on Santorum’s advantages and challenges.

Also interesting is writer Anna Palmer’s story finale. Santorum is irrelevant (my take on her take … she doesn’t really use THAT word ) because Ted Cruz is sucking the air out of the Evangelical vote.

Begging the question … if Santorum is so clearly irrelevant, why waste a story on him? To me it came off as another of these “conventional wisdom” stories aimed at influencing the easily influenced.

One thing not mentioned much is that Santorum’s geographical base, which he even did well in when he lost in the 2006 midterms - is western Pennsylvania, bordering eastern Ohio and the West Virginia panhandle. Could he take his home state as a favorite son … and add critical Ohio in a national race? He knows the territory and that Blue Collar Conservative campaign he is presenting is at least an interesting strategy for getting moderate voters to switch to the GOP after Obama weariness hits its peak.
Still, several Republicans said Santorum’s 2012 experience could propel him further next time. He won 11 primary contests — dealing embarrassing losses to Romney in Missouri and in the Minnesota and Colorado caucuses.
“Nothing prepares you for running and winning a nomination contest like running and losing a nomination contest,” said Kevin Madden, a top aide to Romney during his 2012 presidential bid. “He and his team should be better prepared for the grind, the pressure and the crises that are all guaranteed elements of the process.”
Veteran Republican consultant Charlie Black, who was Sen. John McCain’s 2008 chief presidential campaign adviser, agreed.
“Rick certainly has good reason to run. In our party, the second-place finisher frequently gets the nomination the next time,” Black said. “Without knowing who all will be in the field, Rick is probably the front-runner among evangelical Christian voters at this point. We will have a large field of good candidates, but Rick will be a serious player.”
One hurdle Santorum will have is standing out in a field of candidates who can appeal to social conservatives. Sens. Ted Cruz of Texas and Rand Paul of Kentucky both play well to his base. While Santorum could easily differentiate himself from Romney, other potential 2016 candidates, including Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, will also appeal to social conservatives.
 
Finally a poll with results I like. 😃

Santorum, Cruz and Ryan lead? 👍 How I wish ANY of those three were President today.

Here’s a link to a (softly anti- in my opinion) story on Santorum.

politico.com/story/2014/09/rick-santorum-returns-111408.html

The writer betrays her bias to the inevitability of (yet another) establishment Republican as the eventual GOP candidate - but give her credit - dutifully enumerates some of the pro-s that a Santorum candidacy enjoys … especially vs. last time (2012).

It is interesting to hear the takes by former Mc Cain and Romney campaign leaders on Santorum’s advantages and challenges.

Also interesting is writer Anna Palmer’s story finale. Santorum is irrelevant (my take on her take … she doesn’t really use THAT word ) because Ted Cruz is sucking the air out of the Evangelical vote.

Begging the question … if Santorum is so clearly irrelevant, why waste a story on him? To me it came off as another of these “conventional wisdom” stories aimed at influencing the easily influenced.

One thing not mentioned much is that Santorum’s geographical base, which he even did well in when he lost in the 2006 midterms - is western Pennsylvania, bordering eastern Ohio and the West Virginia panhandle. Could he take his home state as a favorite son … and add critical Ohio in a national race? He knows the territory and that Blue Collar Conservative campaign he is presenting is at least an interesting strategy for getting moderate voters to switch to the GOP after Obama weariness hits its peak.
Good news. What about a Santorum/Cruz ticket? I could vote for that.
 
Good news. What about a Santorum/Cruz ticket? I could vote for that.
Well … in Latin and Spanish that would translate to Holy Place/Cross. Hard to live up to those altitudinous religious sentiments, but all in all, not a bad lyrical entry. Or a substantial entry come to think of it.
 
Good news. What about a Santorum/Cruz ticket? I could vote for that.
I would vote for either of them over Hillary Clinton or any likely Dem candidate. But they wouldn’t be my first choices for the ticket because I don’t think they can win.
 
Finally a poll with results I like. 😃

Santorum, Cruz and Ryan lead? 👍 How I wish ANY of those three were President today.

Here’s a link to a (softly anti- in my opinion) story on Santorum.

politico.com/story/2014/09/rick-santorum-returns-111408.html

The writer betrays her bias to the inevitability of (yet another) establishment Republican as the eventual GOP candidate - but give her credit - dutifully enumerates some of the pro-s that a Santorum candidacy enjoys … especially vs. last time (2012).

It is interesting to hear the takes by former Mc Cain and Romney campaign leaders on Santorum’s advantages and challenges.

Also interesting is writer Anna Palmer’s story finale. Santorum is irrelevant (my take on her take … she doesn’t really use THAT word ) because Ted Cruz is sucking the air out of the Evangelical vote.

Begging the question … if Santorum is so clearly irrelevant, why waste a story on him? To me it came off as another of these “conventional wisdom” stories aimed at influencing the easily influenced.

One thing not mentioned much is that Santorum’s geographical base, which he even did well in when he lost in the 2006 midterms - is western Pennsylvania, bordering eastern Ohio and the West Virginia panhandle. Could he take his home state as a favorite son … and add critical Ohio in a national race? He knows the territory and that Blue Collar Conservative campaign he is presenting is at least an interesting strategy for getting moderate voters to switch to the GOP after Obama weariness hits its peak.
Hello Captfun. Here is my take on Santorum: he came in 2nd in a primary battle between flawed candidates (or was he 3rd behind Gingrich). It is incorrect to take his showing among a weak field of contenders in 2012 (I mean, Rick Perry, Ron Paul, Michelle Bachmann, Herman Cain, Jon Huntsman, Gary Johnson?) and apply that to 2016 which has a much stronger field of candidates - Chris Christie, Marco Rubio, Scott Walker, Paul Ryan Bobby Jindal and Mike Pence to name a few. Take Walker - he is in a position to be a strong contender if he wins his battle in Wisconsin. On the other hand, Santorum lost his last election and it wasn’t close. Walker has shown that he can appeal to a wide variety of voters - not just traditional conservatives or the GOP base - and win in a purple state. Santorum has not proven he can appeal to swing voters, moderates, or independents. Based on that, I would judge Walker to be the stronger potential candidate. One other thing to consider are the potential negatives: even if Santorum could win over a few blue collar conservatives, how many moderates or independents would he alienate or scare off in the process? Fair or not, his candidacy would be torpedoed faster than you can say, “war on women.” I wouldn’t regard the race as Santorum vs. the GOP establishment - unless you’re talking Santorum vs Romney or Jeb Bush. The other guys aren’t really the GOP establishment, not even Christie.

If you really like Santorum and hope I’m wrong, you can take solace in knowing that I usually am wrong in my political predictions. But that is the way I see it. As always I appreciate your take.

Ishii
 
Well … in Latin and Spanish that would translate to Holy Place/Cross. Hard to live up to those altitudinous religious sentiments, but all in all, not a bad lyrical entry. Or a substantial entry come to think of it.
Good observation.
 
If you really like Santorum and hope I’m wrong, you can take solace in knowing that I usually am wrong in my political predictions. But that is the way I see it. As always I appreciate your take.

Ishii
You know why your’e usually wrong, Ishii? Because you make sense you’re woefully outnumbered!
 
Romney would have hurt the poor with his calloused job killing free trade policies, and his RECORD of supporting gay marriage and no action on abortion made him the top RINO candidate in 2012.
I will not vote for the lesser of two evils any more. I refuse to vote for anything evil as that is where true responsibility lies, not in boycotting the two duopolist candidates.
Vote for who you like more, not who you think can best win. That is why a lot of Germans voted for Adolph Hitler and look what that did for them.
Are you kidding us, RG? Obama loves the poor so much, he has made millions more of them. :rolleyes:
 
For instance you can often find in CAF posters who claim Republican nominees are not conservative enough while in other threads they defend the ACA and hype AGW.
Hi Bob. Yjanks for the previous ACA (Affordable Care Act) explanation.👍
Now for the AGW…
May God bless you.
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