(2nd request) Why was I denied Holy Communion by an E.M.?

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Do you really think an altar server is going to come with the EMHC to hold out a paten?
He ought to. Nowadays, servers mostly just stand there in their street clothes looking bored, so it’s hard to tell the difference between a server and some guy you just met. A diocesan director of worship once told me that they could be one and the same.

In any event, the idea that the norm of sick calls is an EMHC coming alone to visit the communicant needs to be rethought. The Sacraments are public acts.
 
I’m on disability and homebound. Therefore, I rarely get to attend Holy Mass.
I’ve had many stressors since March, 2010, which cause me to feel more anxiety than usual.
Wednesday, 20OCT2010, the EM (Eucharistic Minister) sent to me a text message which said that she was going to bring with her a stranger; a new person in this Church who I don’t know. I told her that my anxiety was bad to the point of having an anxiety attack from the thought of meeting someone new. Her response: “…maybe we need 2 wait till next week so u can think about it.”
At this time I’m in need of God’s Saving Grace more than usual; how can this EM deny me the receipt of Jesus Christ?
Thank you.

Scoochy

Scoochy, please contact your priest, this EM has made a judgement which only belongs to God. His/her job is to bring to you the Body and Blood of Christ, as a member of his Body and nothing else. So please contact your priest and let him know.
God Bless
GraceAngel.

P.S.: I posted this as a “New Thread” earlier today, but never have received a response from you yet.
 
"Scoochy, please contact your priest, this EM has made a judgement which only belongs to God. His/her job is to bring to you the Body and Blood of Christ, as a member of his Body and nothing else. So please contact your priest and let him know.
God Bless
GraceAngel."


***GraceAngel, ***
Are you making a judgement about the EMHC that only belongs to God?
My parish Priest has many health difficulties, also; worse than mine.
I left a message on his answering machine & on email. No response yet after 6 days.
He’s trying to care for three different parishes, as this is considered a mission due to the Osage Indian population.

If any of you tried to send a msg. to me, I haven’t received it. Many times this site is confusing to me.
Thank all of you for caring.

Scoochy

(Who is like unto God?)
 
Why “must” she be educated? She isn’t a mental health care professional. Her ministry is to bring Communion to the homebound as long as it does not interfere with her primary duties.
You keep saying this.

The primary duty of an EMHC is the distribution of the Eucharist, if they are assigned to take it to the homebound then that is their primary duty, if not they should not be an EMHC.
 
You keep saying this.
Yes, I am because people are not getting it.
The primary duty of an EMHC is the distribution of the Eucharist, if they are assigned to take it to the homebound then that is their primary duty, if not they should not be an EMHC.
With all due respect, that is incorrect. I’ve been a EMHC in two different Dioceses (in two different states) and in BOTH parishes I was told by the deacons, nuns, priests and pastors that my duty as a EMHC came SECONDARY to my responsibilities to family, work, etc.
 
Why “must” she be educated? She isn’t a mental health care professional. Her ministry is to bring Communion to the homebound as long as it does not interfere with her primary duties.
And the basis for you assumption that the EMHC lacked good reason is… What? You got it right in post #66: why didn’t the OP “[j]ust find out who this second person is and why they need to come with the EMHC”? And how can we possibly judge the situation correctly without knowing the other side of the story? But you have. It’s writ large all over your posts. You’ve concluded that the EMHC did something wrong, even though—for all you know—the OP could be well known as difficult, or the EMHC herself might have anxiety problems, or any number of other possibilities that you seem utterly indifferent to in your blinding sympathy for the OP.

Someone recently posted that they felt slighted when a southpaw priest gave them the body of Christ using their left hand rather than their right hand. Which is crazy. If that guy had had anxiety problems, would you have suggested that he immediately write to the bishop? It’s well and good to sympathize for someone in difficulty, but not to the point you and other posters attacking the EMHC have taken it. You don’t know all the facts, but you’re slighting one sister in Christ out of a fecklessly exaggerated sympathy for another.
 
Yes, I am because people are not getting it.

With all due respect, that is incorrect. I’ve been a EMHC in two different Dioceses (in two different states) and in BOTH parishes I was told by the deacons, nuns, priests and pastors that my duty as a EMHC came SECONDARY to my responsibilities to family, work, etc.
You are right, it is secondary, but the moment you pick up the Eucharist for delievery to a homebound person, then your primary duty is to do that, unless an emergency occurs. Otherwise you should not be volunteering to take it to them.
 
You are right, it is secondary, but the moment you pick up the Eucharist for delievery to a homebound person, then your primary duty is to do that, unless an emergency occurs.
First off, there is no indication that the EMHC had already picked up the Eucharist. You are again assuming the worst of someone that is giving of their time and money in order to bring the Eucharist to others instead of giving them the benefit of the doubt.
Otherwise you should not be volunteering to take it to them.
And that is the course of action more and more people are doing – resulting in less and less people volunteering – which results in less and less homebound people receiving the Eucharist less and less frequently. Is that a good desired effect?
 
You are right, it is secondary, but the moment you pick up the Eucharist for delievery to a homebound person, then your primary duty is to do that, unless an emergency occurs. Otherwise you should not be volunteering to take it to them.
We don’t know if she had an emergency that came up. We don’t know if she misunderstood Scoochy’s reply. We don’t know if the EMHC volunteered or if she replied, “Yes, I will serve” when asked by the overworked, ailing pastor. There is a lot that we don’t know. We don’t know if she is trying to take a well deserved break from this thankless ministry. We just don’t know.
 
We don’t know if she had an emergency that came up. We don’t know if she misunderstood Scoochy’s reply. We don’t know if the EMHC volunteered or if she replied, “Yes, I will serve” when asked by the overworked, ailing pastor. There is a lot that we don’t know. We don’t know if she is trying to take a well deserved break from this thankless ministry. We just don’t know.
Your right, we don’t know but if she was unable to deliever to this homebound person she should have returned to the priest who one would assume would contact the person in question.

There is just a lot we do not know about this issue.
 
Your right, we don’t know but if she was unable to deliever to this homebound person she should have returned to the priest who one would assume would contact the person in question.

There is just a lot we do not know about this issue.
Even the priest did not respond to the phone call and email of the OP after 6 days. Yes, there is a lot we do not know about this issue.
 
Your right, we don’t know but if she was unable to deliever to this homebound person she should have returned to the priest who one would assume would contact the person in question.
She should have returned to the priest who is busy running three parishes? Chances are he would have been unreachable and would not have received her message until the evening or even the following day. As was already pointed out, he didn’t get back to the OP post until almost a week later.

Are you saying that telling the woman ahead of time that she wasn’t coming was a worse course of action than having her not know the status until a day or two (or more) later?
 
He ought to. Nowadays, servers mostly just stand there in their street clothes looking bored, so it’s hard to tell the difference between a server and some guy you just met. A diocesan director of worship once told me that they could be one and the same.

In any event, the idea that the norm of sick calls is an EMHC coming alone to visit the communicant needs to be rethought. The Sacraments are public acts.
Let me see if I understand this correctly. There is a shortage of EMHCs to begin with to visit the homebound and you are saying that those volunteers should be stretched even thinner by doubling them up? That will serve to reduce even further the amount of people and frequency that they are able to receive our Lord in the Eucharist.

Exactly how is that a good thing?
 
Let me see if I understand this correctly. There is a shortage of EMHCs to begin with to visit the homebound and you are saying that those volunteers should be stretched even thinner by doubling them up? That will serve to reduce even further the amount of people and frequency that they are able to receive our Lord in the Eucharist.

Exactly how is that a good thing?
As stated earlier, it protects the Church from lawsuits and it protects people’s safety. More importantly, it serves to protect the Blessed Sacrament from harm and irreverence.

As far as numbers, I don’t think you understand anything about it. If you give people an actual important job, they will volunteer for it. More people may be comfortable going around in pairs, and you might reduce burnout. Treating the number of people involved as zero-sum is rather self-limiting.
 
As stated earlier, it protects the Church from lawsuits and it protects people’s safety. More importantly, it serves to protect the Blessed Sacrament from harm and irreverence.

As far as numbers, I don’t think you understand anything about it. If you give people an actual important job, they will volunteer for it. More people may be comfortable going around in pairs, and you might reduce burnout. Treating the number of people involved as zero-sum is rather self-limiting.
I understand it a whole lot better than you may realize. I’ve been a EMHC for nearly a decade. As a matter of fact, next month will be exactly ten years. I didn’t volunteer for it. I was asked to help out by the Monsignor because there was a shortage. During those nearly ten years I watched our numbers SHRINK instead of grow despite the importance of bringing our Lord to those that wish to receive Him but are unable to come to Church to do so.

New EMHC are regularly added but not at the same rate as existing EMHC are leaving the ministry and the numbers are slowly shrinking. I didn’t do a mathematical study but when I first joined, our meetings were held in the side chapel and it was packed. Now our meetings are held in one of the basement meeting rooms. The numbers are significantly smaller.

Exactly how many years as a EMHC are you basing your above conclusion on?
 
New EMHC are regularly added but not at the same rate as existing EMHC are leaving the ministry and the numbers are slowly shrinking. I didn’t do a mathematical study but when I first joined, our meetings were held in the side chapel and it was packed. Now our meetings are held in one of the basement meeting rooms. The numbers are significantly smaller.
We have enough EMHCs for Mass but only one of them is willing to go to the hospital and homes to bring Communion to the sick and shut-ins. I’ve already told the Liturgy Coordinator that I’d be willing to become an EMHC but only for sick calls, not at Mass. I already do sick calls when the pastor is away so adding bringing Communion is not a long reach.

The worst thing I heard this weekend was a woman I know who is an EMHC in another parish saying that when they bring Communion next Sunday they will dress up for Halloween to do so because the sick people 'Will really enjoy that." Assuming they aren’t planning to come to Mass in costume it means they will return home to change, bringing the Blessed Sacrament with them, instead of going directly to the sick beds.😦
 
It’s not up to the EM to manage your anxiety and try to get you over it. It is her job to bring you the Eucharist. Period.

Call the parish and speak to the priest. He will make sure someone sets her straight and that you receive Communion.

Betsy
Hmm…
wondering if perhaps the EMHC that was bringing communion was “quitting” and bringing a replacement. Wouldn’t be very nice to have a stranger show up to deliver communion to a person with such a disorder
 
She should have returned to the priest who is busy running three parishes?
Yes, because no EMHC should be walking around carrying the Eucharist that is not going to someone.

Also, was it stated that the priest for this homebound woman’s parish has three of them?
 
Hmm…
wondering if perhaps the EMHC that was bringing communion was “quitting” and bringing a replacement. Wouldn’t be very nice to have a stranger show up to deliver communion to a person with such a disorder
And if this is the case it should have been communicated in some other way than a text message. Like say a phone call.
 
My two cents:

When I read that post, I was thinking that the E.M. was probably concerned about ADDING to your anxiety and/or not being comfortable if a difficult situation presented itself. They are still humans, and she was probably put off by the semantics.

That said, the best thing to do is to SPEAK directly to the E.M. If you find that too challenging, explain the situation in an e-mail. And then maybe cc your pastor, to put everyone on the same page and avoid this in the future.

Good luck, and don’t be distressed. Only jeans should be distressed.
 
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