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Huh…Steadily declining? The only seminarians allowed to ordination today in probably 150 of the 200 seminaries in the US are those that profess to woman ordination, extreme liberalism or are Gay, or all three, which the homosexual is, and this was all in the reform of Vatican II. And I dont care what is said, if you are gay, you stand to be a child abuser, as there are groups out there that make no secret about this (ever hear of NAMBLA-National Association of Man Boy Love Association). I had a friend who was about to enter college, I guess 17 or so and dumped his girlfriend for no reason and showed up at a party with his new date, as he came out of the closet and guess what it was? A 40 year old Catholic Priest that he started dating. This was I guess in 1984 or something.
And as far as Kung and those, the liberal swell in the church started in the 50’s and continues to this day. I go to mass now and I shake my head at some of the sermons I hear, and when I get a priest that actually talks with a voice that sounds somewhat heterosexual, it is a rarity.
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And as far as Kung and those, the liberal swell in the church started in the 50’s and continues to this day. I go to mass now and I shake my head at some of the sermons I hear, and when I get a priest that actually talks with a voice that sounds somewhat heterosexual, it is a rarity.
Exporter,
Do you know what percentage of priests involved in sex abuse were raised and catechized on the pre-Vatican II Church? The reports show a drastic increase of sex abuse incidents involving the clergy beginning in the 1950s, continuing to rise until it’s peak in the 1970s, then steadily declining. I don’t see how this increase or subsequent decrease is in any way correlated to the Ecumenical council of 1965-1968. Seems rather uncorrelated to me.
Fr. Hans Kung was raised on the Tridentine liturgy, and yet he’s among the most dissident priests we have. So was Fr. Charles Curran. After *Humanae Vitae *was promulgated in 1968, the significant number of defections from the clergy, breaking their priestly oath, some even marrying against canon law and leaving the Church were ALL raised on the pre-Vatican II Church. Seems to me the pre-Vatican II seminaries dropped the ball in producing such disloyal priests during this era.