5 New Cardinals Announced!

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I find the choice from El Salvador interesting. It’s rare that someone would be made a cardinal who is not the ordinary of a diocese. The only one that immediately comes to mind is Avery Dulles and I believe he was past the voting age for a concave when he was named.
 
Making an auxiliary bishop a Cardinal, when the Ordinary the auxiliary serves is not a Cardinal is…interesting.
 
OaTmEaL said:
Making an auxiliary bishop a Cardinal, when the Ordinary the auxiliary serves is not a Cardinal is…interesting.
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Its very odd. Even if he is transferred to another diocese as Ordinary, he’s still being promoted over and above his current “boss” while still serving in his diocese.
The Pope has promoted bishops over their metropolitans too. Less odd, but still unusual. This Auxiliary Bishop now takes precedence over the “Primate of the Americas” (the Archbishop of Santo Domingo).
 
Let us pray to the Lord for these men, that He may protect them and guide them, and bless them as they strengthen the flock of God.

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The Pope seems much more interested in bringing new members (as in countries) into the college than in rewarding the traditional sees with red hats. I believe that Sweden, Mali and Laos are all.new to the College of Cardinals.
 
SuscipeMeDomine said:
I find the choice from El Salvador interesting. It’s rare that someone would be made a cardinal who is not the ordinary of a diocese. The only one that immediately comes to mind is Avery Dulles and I believe he was past the voting age for a concave when he was named.
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OaTmEaL said:
Making an auxiliary bishop a Cardinal, when the Ordinary the auxiliary serves is not a Cardinal is…interesting.
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This move also elevates the Ordinary of the Archdiocese of San Salvador to the Cardinalate - a first.

Disappointed that Archbishop Charles Chaput, a member of the Prairie Band Potawatomi tribe of native Americans, was not elevated. Ah, patience…
 
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This move also elevates the Ordinary of the Archdiocese of San Salvador to the Cardinalate - a first.
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No, the ordinary of San Salvador is Abp Jose Luis Escobar Alas, and he will remain the ordinary after Bp Rosa Chavez is created Cardinal.
Also note that Bp Rosa Chavez reaches the normal retirement age for bishops in September of this year.
 
First Scandinavian cardinal ever! Pope Francis surprises again:bounce:
 
amsjj said:
I wish Philadelphia would get the red hat.
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Disappointed that Archbishop Charles Chaput, a member of the Prairie Band Potawatomi tribe of native Americans, was not elevated. Ah, patience…
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I would not expect it while Cardinal Rigali is still alive. It is very rare in the Church for an Ordinary to be inducted into the College while his Cardinal Predecessor is still alive.

That is why I do not expect either Archbishop Gomez ( L.A.) or Archbishop Vigneron ( Detroit) to join the College anytime soon either. Both of their predecessors are still living ( Cardinals Mahony and Maida)
 
Brendan said:
I would not expect it while Cardinal Rigali is still alive. It is very rare in the Church for an Ordinary to be inducted into the College while his Cardinal Predecessor is still alive.

That is why I do not expect either Archbishop Gomez ( L.A.) or Archbishop Vigneron ( Detroit) to join the College anytime soon either. Both of their predecessors are still living ( Cardinals Mahony and Maida)
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I don’t think this is true. It is unusual for ordinaries to be created cardinals while their predecessor is still of voting age. Many expected +Gomez to be elevated when +Mahony reached 80.
 
twf said:
I don’t think this is true. It is unusual for ordinaries to be created cardinals while their predecessor is still of voting age. Many expected +Gomez to be elevated when +Mahony reached 80.
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This is correct. Benedict gave Dolan the red hat before Egan turned 80, but that’s the only exception of recent hitsory that comes to mind.
 
SuscipeMeDomine said:
The Pope seems much more interested in bringing new members (as in countries) into the college than in rewarding the traditional sees with red hats. I believe that Sweden, Mali and Laos are all.new to the College of Cardinals.
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I am from sweden and it is our first cardinal ever, of course we are very much delighted with this and it makes our small catholic community, in a predominantely Lutheran/secular country very happy. 🙂
 
anjoh66 said:
I am from sweden and it is our first cardinal ever, of course we are very much delighted with this and it makes our small catholic community, in a predominantely Lutheran/secular country very happy. 🙂
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That is what I read. Glad for you!🙂
 
anjoh66 said:
I am from sweden and it is our first cardinal ever, of course we are very much delighted with this and it makes our small catholic community, in a predominantely Lutheran/secular country very happy. 🙂
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👍
 
Brendan said:
I would not expect it while Cardinal Rigali is still alive. It is very rare in the Church for an Ordinary to be inducted into the College while his Cardinal Predecessor is still alive.

That is why I do not expect either Archbishop Gomez ( L.A.) or Archbishop Vigneron ( Detroit) to join the College anytime soon either. Both of their predecessors are still living ( Cardinals Mahony and Maida)
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Do you think it’s automatic that Detroit’s Archbishop will continue to be a Cardinal? The Archbishops of St. Louis were members of the College of Cardinals from 1946 (the same consistory that elevated Archbishop Mooney of Detroit also elevated Archbishop Glennon of St. Louis). However, following Cardinal Carberry’s retirement in 1979, and even after his death in 1998, no Archbishops of St. Louis have been named as Cardinals (the Catholic kind, not the baseball kind).

Not sure what the reason for that development in St. Louis…if it’s demographics, and the shifting of population away from Rust Belt cities to the South and West, Detroit might not have a Cardinal in its future.

Thoughts?
 
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