50 Shades of Grey

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Indeed. Edward has the red flags of emotional abuser written all over him.

Personally, I like eroticism in literature when the eroticism makes sense in context. For example, if the book is about the lives of the characters (which includes a married couple), nothing wrong with sex there. Not a fan of eroticism in an adulterious relationship; nothing about adultery is amusing to me.
The problem has something to do with the BDSM in it.
 
There is no rationalization or justification for reading a book like this. (I’ve read excerpts, and thats plenty.) Plain and simple, this book is pornography. Its seeping into the lives of women everywhere, and no one is voicing an opposition. Despite the claims that it will “re-ignite” your marriage, any God-loving Christian that strives to live the will of the Father, will realize it does the exact opposite. This book has caused a major dispute in my marriage. I, a practicing Catholic, and my wife, a semi-practicing non-denominational Christian, do not see eye to eye on this. “Its just a book,” and “stay out of my bookcase,” are among the lines I’m hearing. It really comes down to this question, Is this book going to bring me closer to God? The answer for those that have to think about it is NO. So why are we wasting our time? I believe the evil one penetrates our lives quietly through the guise of seemingly harmless media and desires. A wolf in sheep’s clothing, it will devour you, and all while you were claiming to be “in-control.” Don’t waste your time with this book. It’s whole premise of an adulterous relationship should be enough to keep you away.
 
The problem has something to do with the BDSM in it.
The problem is that it was poorly written 😛 it was abruptly ended in what seems like five minutes, as if the author either got bored, ran out of ideas, or wanted to quickly start working on the sequel. The heroine was wishy washy and could never make a decision.

I know people said this was a fanfic based on the Twighlight characters, and I don’t know if that’s true or not, but honestly, I just don’t see the comparison.
 
Yes, but it still promotes abusive relationships.
I disagree that it promotes abusive relationships: both characters were free to end the relationship, and neither ‘hand something’ on the other. The heroine was a college graduate with a new job offer and the beginnings of a fresh new career, with loving parents who were more than adequate safety nets, along with her friends. The hero of the story made no attempts to emotionally blackmale her or give her ultimatims. She was free to come and go as she pleased, and he got her permission for everything done to her and by her. She made the decision to stay with him, and agreed to his whims out of curiosity and lust. They were both morally bankrupt by their own doings. Abusive relationships are those in which one victimizes the other, who is without choices and without any alternatives. So it’s a bit far fetched to say that this book promoted abusive relationships. However, it sure did promote immorality. I’m sure the average and the majority of readers didn’t bat an eye way in the beginning, when the relationship was first initiated.
 
Indeed. Edward has the red flags of emotional abuser written all over him.

Personally, I like eroticism in literature when the eroticism makes sense in context. For example, if the book is about the lives of the characters (which includes a married couple), nothing wrong with sex there. Not a fan of eroticism in an adulterious relationship; nothing about adultery is amusing to me.
I didn’t think the book 50 shades was about adultery? I don’t think either of the main characters are married to anyone else from what my friends reading the books have said. Maybe they left that out of the discussion?
 
Stephanie Meyers, the author of Twilight, stated 50 Shades of Grey is not her type of book. She’s Mormon, so that’s not surprising. Also, as a couple other posters pointed out above, the only sex in the book (which is mentioned; there are no sex scenes) is between married couples. In fact, the main character, after getting married, wonders how she could have ever thought about having sex without the commitment of marriage.
 
Oh man… The writing in Twilight isn’t just bad as far as professional writing goes, it’s bad even for an amateur level.

E.g.:

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More of these Twilight gems can be found here: reasoningwithvampires.tumblr.com/
The comma is just missed editing. You can find stuff like that in every book in print. However, that’s actually grammatically correct in British English.
 
From what my girlfriend has shown me of this book, they tried to fit it into real life as accurately as possible. It’s set in Portland, Ore., and references places like Voodoo Doughnut, which is a genuine Portland landmark for its doughnut quality and creativity. One passage she showed me had the male character distraught because his favorite soccer team, the Seattle Sounders, lost a game to Real Salt Lake 2-1 because their goalkeeper accidentally threw the ball into his own net.

That actually happened at the exact time frame that the book depicts.
 
I can’t believe this book is #1.
I can’t believe it was written by a middle-aged woman! This lady has gotta be like what, 40, and she still writes fanfiction!? D8>

Not just any kind of fanfiction but THAT kind of fanfiction? D8>
 
I can’t believe it was written by a middle-aged woman! This lady has gotta be like what, 40, and she still writes fanfiction!? D8>

Not just any kind of fanfiction but THAT kind of fanfiction? D8>
I’ve seen worse from people HALF her age!
 
I can’t believe it was written by a middle-aged woman! This lady has gotta be like what, 40, and she still writes fanfiction!? D8>

Not just any kind of fanfiction but THAT kind of fanfiction? D8>
40 is middle aged? :eek:

I just can’t get my head around this phenomenon.

There are many, many 'bodice rippers" in the bookstores that are quite explicit. They don’t seem to have everyone talking and don’t seem to elicit conversation (and CAF threads)

This book is supposedly poorly written, and unfortunately not the first “dirty book”.

According to Dr. Drew Pinskey, the male protagonist has some type of personality disorder.

Yet I go to family dinners, my 20 year old niece talks about reading this, her 40 year old divorced aunt wishes to meet an idiot —(I mean man) like this.

That’s another thing I don’t get, the complete lack of circumspection in discussing this book. I’ve unfortunately have seen and read bad things before, never would it cross my mind to talk about this at a dinner with my grandmother and uncle at the table.

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::mad:
 
40 is middle aged? :eek:

I just can’t get my head around this phenomenon.

There are many, many 'bodice rippers" in the bookstores that are quite explicit. They don’t seem to have everyone talking and don’t seem to elicit conversation (and CAF threads)

This book is supposedly poorly written, and unfortunately not the first “dirty book”.

According to Dr. Drew Pinskey, the male protagonist has some type of personality disorder.

Yet I go to family dinners, my 20 year old niece talks about reading this, her 40 year old divorced aunt wishes to meet an idiot —(I mean man) like this.

That’s another thing I don’t get, the complete lack of circumspection in discussing this book. I’ve unfortunately have seen and read bad things before, never would it cross my mind to talk about this at a dinner with my grandmother and uncle at the table.

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::mad:
Not to mention the discussions about who should star in the movie and why they would be great in these roles, as if these characters are to be admired or emulated in real life.
 
This reminded me of a Frasier quote. Frasier’s dad points out that he is now middle aged, and when Frasier protests, his dad asks him “Well how old are you planning on living?”
Good! Then I haven’t reached middle age yet.
 
Not to mention the discussions about who should star in the movie and why they would be great in these roles, as if these characters are to be admired or emulated in real life.
Someone I know posted on facebook something about how “Hello, I’m Christian Grey” was bound to be the best or most successful pickup line this summer.

Um. Really? That’s gross.
Good! Then I haven’t reached middle age yet.
haha
 
This reminded me of a Frasier quote. Frasier’s dad points out that he is now middle aged, and when Frasier protests, his dad asks him “Well how old are you planning on living?”
:rotfl:

Re: this book. Picture the ugliest people in the world doing these things to each other. Not so entertaining, really.

Really, picture a bunch of really unattractive people doing any of the “sexy” things you see in entertainment (killing, cheating, stealing, hurting others, etc). Every time you hear about some “new” vice that everyone is into, picture someone ugly doing it.

That’s what I do. I picture them ugly.

If you would laugh in disgust at two ugly people doing the things people are talking about being “sexy” then it’s probably wrong for an attractive person as well.

By 50 we have the face we deserve. That should scare the young people 😉
 
:rotfl:

Re: this book. Picture the ugliest people in the world doing these things to each other. Not so entertaining, really.

Really, picture a bunch of really unattractive people doing any of the “sexy” things you see in entertainment (killing, cheating, stealing, hurting others, etc). Every time you hear about some “new” vice that everyone is into, picture someone ugly doing it.

That’s what I do. I picture them ugly.

If you would laugh in disgust at two ugly people doing the things people are talking about being “sexy” then it’s probably wrong for an attractive person as well.

By 50 we have the face we deserve. That should scare the young people 😉
Uh… I find it a little disturbing that you are suggesting that we have to imagine someone as ugly to determine if something is inappropriate or not. It doesn’t matter what somebody looks like…a sin is a sin is a sin. And imagining other people engaged in sex acts is a bit too close to the sin of lust, I don’t care how I have to imagine how ugly they may be to find it unentertaining or to decide if its something I should read or see. I’m entertaining a lustful thought or image, no thanks.
 
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