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I’ve been thinking about checking out a non denominational church nearby, and was told that they are free to believe in the Flood and it’s aftermath ( 8 people) literally or as,a parable.
Catholics are also free to believe in this.
👍 Exactly. So, why check out a non-denom church?
 
👍 Exactly. So, why check out a non-denom church?
I started a 12STEP program, Celebrate Recovery there, at their church and the meetings with modern music, their kindness, fellowship is infectious. We don’t have that at my parish.
 
I started a 12STEP program, Celebrate Recovery there, at their church and the meetings with modern music, their kindness, fellowship is infectious. We don’t have that at my parish.
Yes, Protestant congregations do have wonderful fellowship. I would not trade it for the Eucharist though. Try reaching out to your fellow parishioners, they may be longing for someone to show them kindness and fellowship. Maybe God has put this on your heart so that you can help bring this sense of community into your parish that you’ve seen in the non-denom church.
 
Yes, Protestant congregations do have wonderful fellowship. I would not trade it for the Eucharist though. Try reaching out to your fellow parishioners, they may be longing for someone to show them kindness and fellowship. Maybe God has put this on your heart so that you can help bring this sense of community into your parish that you’ve seen in the non-denom church.
I have lots of friends at my parish but their enthusiasm doesn’t compare to this other church.
We had lots of activities and ministries but the Sister who ran all that quit and we now have someone few people like. She cut lots of the activities and some people just don’t want to work with her and they quit.
And don’t get me started on our music.

Are there any Catholic parishes that have lively music?
 
Could someone from a more strict non denominational church or strict Lutheran or whatever denomination that’s strict please pm me to tell me how you came to believe only 8 people survived the Flood? I mean give me the science perspective you’ve learned to back it up.

From what I know about science, no fewer that 10,00" people or so have ever been on the planet and I’d like to know how to understand this scientifically from your perspectiv

Thanks
Not sure if you’re acquainted with Answers in Genesis but if you go to their website you may find the answers you are seeking. They are actually building a replica of the Ark in connection with their Creation Museum. Here is a link to their website.

answersingenesis.org/
 
I started a 12STEP program, Celebrate Recovery there, at their church and the meetings with modern music, their kindness, fellowship is infectious. We don’t have that at my parish.
A word of caution - this program, developed by Saddleback Church, is also pushed to participating congregations in this manner:

“Eighty-five percent of the people who go through the program stay with the church and nearly half serve as church volunteers.”

-from the website, celebraterecovery.com
 
I started a 12STEP program, Celebrate Recovery there, at their church and the meetings with modern music, their kindness, fellowship is infectious. We don’t have that at my parish.
I have learned that if I want love in my parish it must begin with me.

I was raised in a wonderful Protestant Church and I loved it and I was loved by the people there.

When I became a Catholic, I did find that Catholics are more reserve and it took awhile to understand. But, in time and with patience I discovered that their love runs deep and quiet.
 
A word of caution - this program, developed by Saddleback Church, is also pushed to participating congregations in this manner:

“Eighty-five percent of the people who go through the program stay with the church and nearly half serve as church volunteers.”

-from the website, celebraterecovery.com
They have CR at some Catholic parishes, though not in my area. I tried to get one at mine but they didn’t accept my suggestion.
 
Tan Books is selling for spare change a number of books exposing the evolution hoax. Haven’t read all but one of them myself, and that long ago, so can’t say much about them, but between such like and the web, you should be fine to find plenty of info.
Humans have changed. Thousands of years ago, for example, everyone had brown eyes but other eye colors arose as a result of genetic mutations. Everyone on earth with blue eyes is descended from a single individual who lived between about 6000 and 10,000 years ago in whom the blue eye mutation first arose. Qualities such as being lactose tolerant are also a result of genetic mutations.
 
The Lutheran church near me is too Biblically literal for my taste.
I am not a Lutheran. I am a Catholic. But your statement really concerns me.

Do people really decide what Church they will attend in order to satisfy their taste in the same manner one choses a restaurant to eat?

I don’t agree with Lutheran doctrine but like Catholics, Lutherans take their teachings seriously and do not set up their teachings to satisfy the tastes of people. Their desire is to please God not the passing tastes of people.
 
The Lutheran church near me is too Biblically literal for my taste.
I am sure that church is not a part of ELCA, but probably belongs to one of the more fundamental Lutheran synods. Like the LCMS or the

Wisconsin synod.
 
Lutherans do 😛
With all due respect, Thorolfr, Lutherans say that they have the Real Presence in the Eucharist; by Catholic standards, having the Real Presence in the Eucharist isn’t just a matter of believing in the Real Presence, but rather, a matter of having a priesthood – valid by virtue of ordination by a bishop who is a successor of the apostles – that has the ability to confect the Eucharist.

Sorry for being so blunt, but that’s how Catholics would see it… 🤷
 
With all due respect, Thorolfr, Lutherans say that they have the Real Presence in the Eucharist; by Catholic standards, having the Real Presence in the Eucharist isn’t just a matter of believing in the Real Presence, but rather, a matter of having a priesthood – valid by virtue of ordination by a bishop who is a successor of the apostles – that has the ability to confect the Eucharist.

Sorry for being so blunt, but that’s how Catholics would see it… 🤷
Lutherans don’t believe that pastors or priests have any special magical powers and that anyone can “confect the Eucharist” by using the proper form although it is better for a pastor to do so “for the good order of the church.” 🤷
 
I have lots of friends at my parish but their enthusiasm doesn’t compare to this other church.
We had lots of activities and ministries but the Sister who ran all that quit and we now have someone few people like. She cut lots of the activities and some people just don’t want to work with her and they quit.
And don’t get me started on our music.

Are there any Catholic parishes that have lively music?
Lively music won’t get you to Heaven; only the Eucharist can do that.

All Catholic Churches have it, and no non-Catholic churches, regardless of how friendly the people are or how lively the music is.
 
Lutherans don’t believe that pastors or priests have any special magical powers
Nor do Catholics. Magic has nothing to do with what a priest does. It is not his power and authority, it is the power and authority of Christ acting through his validly ordained priest. It is Christ, through the power of the Holy Spirit, who confects the Eucharist. Have you ever heard the term “in persona Christi”?
and that anyone can “confect the Eucharist” by using the proper form although it is better for a pastor to do so “for the good order of the church.” 🤷
Really? That is the first time I have ever heard such a thing from a Lutheran. Why, then, is there such an effort to claim apostolic succession (and therefore valid orders)?
 
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