A Catholic article: "If the Catholic Church is the true Church, why is it that Evangelical Protestants are more successful in making converts?"

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Thom18 said:
If “might made right”, then we wouldn’t have had Orthodox or Protestants in the first place. The Catholic Church pre-existed both, after all.
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The Catholic and the Orthodox are part of the undivided first millennium Church.

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billsannie said:
it’s much, much harder being Catholic not because of the rules or because of any commitment to the truth, but because for various reasons Catholic churches provide little in the way of teaching or human support
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In my US diocese, there are still far more Catholics than Evangelicals (they are catching up). But there are far more paid Youth Ministers, Youth Pastors, and Young Adult staff for them than for us.

We have loads of parishes in close proximity. Many of the buildings are magnificent, but expensive to maintain, and far, far bigger than needed for the current, older congregation. There is little money for youth ministry, young adult ministry is almost unheard of. In most parishes, every program except ccd evolved into a de facto seniors program.

Evangelicals concentrate on youth, and specifically young adult ministry.
 
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I suggest Ignatius of Antioch he uses the word catholic. He is from 107AD
 
This is interesting. It strikes me as strange that there isn’t more of a focus on voluntary youth ministry. It’s moot now, but I wonder if I could have skipped twenty years of apostasy if the Catholic parish I grew up in had had some kind of youth community
 
There is a fair amount of voluntary youth ministry, on both sides, especially if you add in scouting. The problem in my area is that the Church formerly had a huge school system, and gave little thought to anything else.

CCD goes less than 26 weeks of the year, with nothing after 10th grade. Evangelical Sunday School goes 52 weeks a year. They usually try to recruit young adults.
 
They’re pushy…like Democrats.

They aggressively go after members, and instead of talking about what they do that’s right, they bad-mouth the other guy.
 
Not imo, and I’ll tell u why…

Democrats and Protestants usually approach people, uninvited.

Whereas a question was asked here which invites an answer, and an objective observation was made in reply.
 
You mean like this?

“7 A woman from Samaria came to draw water. Jesus said to her, “Give me a drink.” 8 (For his disciples had gone away into the city to buy food.) 9 The Samaritan woman said to him, “How is it that you, a Jew, ask for a drink from me, a woman of Samaria?” (For Jews have no dealings with Samaritans.)“

It’s a good question - how do we hold sharing the Good News in tension with holding to social conventions of politeness and personal space? Jesus broke some major social taboos in this passage - speaking to a woman alone, fraternizing with a Samaritan, etc. I wonder if we err sometimes too much on what society demands vs. what our King requests?
 
sainteriksrose said:
They’re pushy…like Democrats.

They aggressively go after members, and instead of talking about what they do that’s right, they bad-mouth the other guy.
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sainteriksrose said:
Democrats and Protestants usually approach people, uninvited.
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Can I ask what you mean? As a non-Catholic of 40 years I have no idea what you’re talking about. Do you mean like when you attend their church they seem to be more welcoming and inviting? TBH, I’ve never heard anyone “bad mouth the other guy” at my church but I’ve heard and read some pretty aggressive stuff about non-Catholics at my wife’s parish.
OKComputer said:
Catholics basically leave you alone while Protestants are usually a bit more obtrusive. Great point.
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Like I asked above, do you mean like at church where non-Catholic churches seem to be more welcoming and inviting?
 
My guesses are:
  1. Jesus is God.
  2. This is apparently how men spoke to women within the culture He chose to be born in.
  3. And, we know that rudeness is not a fruit or gift of the Holy Spirit. Rather than promoting the parts of Christianity they have correct, Protestants tend to think that being rude to Catholics is okay. Like the Protestant deacon who thought he was clever asking me more than once, if I was a good Catholic or a good Christian, and then laughing at his little joke.
I attribute it to their lack of sacramental grace, because you can also see how they deal with OTHER Protestants who are ALSO anti-Catholicm (to their varying degrees), sometimes resorting to unkind gossip as soon as the others back is turned…LITERALLY! It’s almost like they have no respect for anyone other than their own denomination/tribe/whatever. That said, thanks be to God some WILL LISTEN to reason, if they’re directing misstatements to a Catholic who can hopefully offer kind correction.

And the Democratic leadership is nuts coming out of the gate. They are apparently oblivious to the fact that they are doing hell’s bidding, although that said SOME of them might realize it and just not care. The same can be said of RINOs.

And with regard to those who are Christians but think that serving two masters is okay, they should read John 15:6-10 and take note of the word, “if”. Matthew 13 and its references to the tares among the wheat applies as well.
 
I unfortunately witnessed a red-faced Protestant minister sputter anti-Catholic nonsense in the lobby of his church to two photographers who thanks be to Jesus Christ looked embarrassed for the poor man.

And yes, I have noticed that Protestants tend to rely on coffee and donuts to draw people in, rather than the Who they’re really supposed to be there to see, worship, and look forward to.
 
sainteriksrose said:
I unfortunately witnessed a red-faced Protestant minister sputter anti-Catholic nonsense in the lobby of his church to two photographers who thanks be to Jesus Christ looked embarrassed for the poor man.
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So that one means all are that way? Interesting…
sainteriksrose said:
And yes, I have noticed that Protestants tend to rely on coffee and donuts to draw people in, rather than the Who they’re really supposed to be there to see, worship, and look forward to.
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Agree to disagree. Truely and honestly sorry you feel that way.
 
I’m sorry I’ve witnessed these things…

That said, these same Protestants that for SOME REASON seem almost compelled to put down the teachings of Catholicism, do seem to truly love our Lord, plus many do good works that serve everyone.
 
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I’ve seen and heard some of the same types of stuff about NC’s at my wife’s parish…I have to learn that I can’t base everyone on the actions of one, or a few.🤷‍♂️
 
sainteriksrose said:
Protestants tend to think that being rude to Catholics is okay. Like the Protestant deacon who thought he was clever asking me more than once, if I was a good Catholic or a good Christian, and then laughing at his little joke.
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I am sorry this man was rude to you, because that is a rude joke; but one person’s rudeness does not mean that all are that way. You are painting with a broad brush.
sainteriksrose said:
And yes, I have noticed that Protestants tend to rely on coffee and donuts to draw people in, rather than the Who they’re really supposed to be there to see, worship, and look forward to.
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I don’t think that is a fair assessment. Perhaps a few fit that description but generally that is not true.
 
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If I look at it from the perspective that even serving coffee and donuts to others serves our Lord, then it IS a service to Him…

Everyone is welcome to attend the Mass because JESUS is the One welcoming them, and imo that should be enough of a reason to go.
 
too many religions have so many rules that have people jumping through hoops to belong , especially the roman catholic church . in the gospels of Mark and Luke to para-phrase what JESUS said “” if they are preaching curing the sick in the name of JESUS , they are for us , don’t bother them “” . people who proclaim to be shepherds and preach HATRED against those religions that praise and honor JESUS THE CHRIST ARE THOSE WHO PAUL WARNED ABOUT IN HIS LETTERS
 
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