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buffalo
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You might not when science directs you to to take a medication that will kill you, you die, and then a year later change their mind.
I’ll take the science every time
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shoe
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It seems to me that if “nothing” existed a billion years ago that could be “front loaded or designed,” then nothing would exist now, since nothing interacting with nothing is still nothing.
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atheistgirl
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Nope.
First, I’d be dead, so wouldn’t be the least bothered.
Second, I’ll always put my trust in medications I know work, either from nature, or have confidence enough in after my own research, due to the rigors of scientific testing and research for manufactured drugs.
Sure, things have gone wrong from time to time, often with tragic consequences, but if I need medical help, I’ll take what my doctor says anytime over that of a faith healer, spiritualist, or putting faith in a process there isn’t the slightest bit of evidence works
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buffalo
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You are aware of the fraud involved in medicine?Nope.
First, I’d be dead, so wouldn’t be the least bothered.
Second, I’ll always put my trust in medications I know work, either from nature, or have confidence enough in after my own research, due to the rigors of scientific testing and research for manufactured drugs.
Sure, things have gone wrong from time to time, often with tragic consequences, but if I need medical help, I’ll take what my doctor says anytime over that of a faith healer, spiritualist, or putting faith in a process there isn’t the slightest bit of evidence works
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sophion
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why are you folks arguing over medicine when both the religious and the non-religious are taking it! 
when it comes to sickness the religious have more faith in science than god.
when it comes to sickness the religious have more faith in science than god.
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Charlemagne_II
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sophion
“I believe in God but not in Religion.”
Isn’t that sort of like saying you believe in what science has discovered but you don’t believe in science?
“I believe in God but not in Religion.”
Isn’t that sort of like saying you believe in what science has discovered but you don’t believe in science?
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Peter_Plato
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Or have faith in the intelligible order that God embedded in the universe, but not so much in our current and limited understanding of it. The fact that the scientific method has formalized and brought about a more rigorously defined understanding of that order does not mean faith in God is compromised. In fact, it has allowed for a stronger faith because God is clearly not chaotic or random in his creativity. That the universe has been made very accessible from an intellectual standpoint is another affirmation of faith.why are you folks arguing over medicine when both the religious and the non-religious are taking it!
when it comes to sickness the religious have more faith in science than god.
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ThinkingSapien
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I don’t think it is. As I know quite a few that make similar declarations under the description of “spiritual but not religious.” (Note: not every one subscribes to the same God concept). I think there is another thread on all this though.sophion
“I believe in God but not in Religion.”
Isn’t that sort of like saying you believe in what science has discovered but you don’t believe in science?
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Charlemagne_II
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ThinkingSapien
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I don’t think it is. As I know quite a few that make similar declarations under the description of “spiritual but not religious.” (Note: not every one subscribes to the same God concept). I think there is another thread on all this though. **
If religion can be defined as having a relationship with God, how can you believe in
God without having a relationship with God?
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I don’t think it is. As I know quite a few that make similar declarations under the description of “spiritual but not religious.” (Note: not every one subscribes to the same God concept). I think there is another thread on all this though. **
If religion can be defined as having a relationship with God, how can you believe in
God without having a relationship with God?
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atheistgirl
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Oh, let’s not be so melodramatic
If I ever need my appendix out, I’m going to see the doctor, then the surgeon, then have the operation, and then take the meds.
Simple as that.
What I absolutely won’t be doing, is praying the pain goes away
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clem456
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A better analogy might be to say “I’d like to have relationships but I’m not going to leave the house.”sophion
“I believe in God but not in Religion.”
Isn’t that sort of like saying you believe in what science has discovered but you don’t believe in science?
Believing in God without religion is like a person with agoraphobia talking about how much they appreciate travel.
Your God is only as big as your own mind.
Religion implies common ideas and worship of God with others.
To say you believe in God but not religion is an absurdity.
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Giants
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Religion cannot be defined that way. It can possibly be defined as having a specific relationship with God. But then, not everyone’s relationship with God can be categorized as neatly as religions define them.
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Giants
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Unless you’re a Deist. But Deism is no more a religion than is Atheism.
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trapper1
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A false choice. Evolution theories are not without their gaps and problems, but they are not in conflict with catholcism. (understand that you perhaps aren’t arguing this…but instead arguing against the position of the previous poster).
I’ll take the science every time
At the very least, it can be examined, verified, credited, discredited, and reworked and re-examined in the light of new knowledge.
Much better to make the story fit the facts than drown in the cognitive dissonance required to constantly twist and ignore the facts to make them fit the story.
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atheistgirl
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Correct. I’m not arguing that.
Catholicism leaves the door open for Catholics to believe in evolution, or believe in a literal translation of Genesis.
I know this.
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Bradski
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I used to know this guy that told me he found it absolutely astounding that everyone has just the right amount of skin to cover their bodies. And we’re all different sizes! You’d get on well with him. You have a lot in common.
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Peter_Plato
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I find that astounding, too, given what is involved in cellular reproduction, cell specification and the genetic coding required to bring about specified body morphology. Almost as astounding as to think this all came about without a plan, just a hit and miss, trial and error selection process.
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buffalo
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It used to be thought the appendix was a vestigial organ and it was removed very often. Now it is known to have function.Oh, let’s not be so melodramatic
If I ever need my appendix out, I’m going to see the doctor, then the surgeon, then have the operation, and then take the meds.
Simple as that.
What I absolutely won’t be doing, is praying the pain goes away
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Bradski
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I’m always amazed at why it wasn’t so apparent hundreds of years ago. I mean, you didn’t have to be a Galileo or a Newton or an Einstein to figure it out. Anyone sitting out the back having a beer and contemplating life could have come up with the basics. You almost have to stop yourself asking: Is that it? Is that all it takes? Surely it has to be more complicated?
How many major scientific theories can actually be understood by a young child? They say that the best ideas are the simplest ones.
po18guy
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Speaking strictly for yourself, I might ask? Please take note: drbo.org/cgi-bin/s?t=0&q=physician&b=drbwhen it comes to sickness the religious have more faith in science than god.
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