A Historical Dare to Protestants

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One other thing, Petros/Petra (Greek) versus Cephas (Aramaic) argument aside, why did Jesus hand St. Peter the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven (Matthew 16:19)?
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Hi nsper, 👋

Since we are 50 over the 1,000 limit and will be closed down soon. I will be silly and answer He did it so the SDA’s didn’t get their hands on the keys?

God Bless Everyone**
 
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Hi nsper, 👋

Since we are 50 over the 1,000 limit and will be closed down soon. I will be silly and answer He did it so the SDA’s didn’t get their hands on the keys?

God Bless Everyone**
LOL. I guess we will have to make a Part 2 thread. This convo is good.
 
YOU can have any doctrine YOU want. We will judge it based on God’s word through the illumination and guidance of the Holy Spirit, and you won’t understand, but I don’t think its written anywhere that that matters.
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Catholic daddy, 👋

You wouldn’t know the Holy Spirit if He walked up and said Hi to you! The HS can only guide the real church all phony groups will have to make their own imitation Holy spirits to go with their imitation Jesus!

God Bless**
 
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Catholic daddy, 👋

You wouldn’t know the Holy Spirit if He walked up and said Hi to you! The HS can only guide the real church all phony groups will have to make their own imitation Holy spirits to go with their imitation Jesus!
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You just made my job a lot easier. And some day you will know just how lame that comment was.
God Bless
 
Are you confessing?
**Hi Catholic daddy, 👋

I will confess, and then I will accuse, OK? I confess that I am total confused with the fact that today there are 33,000 counterfeit denominations, and non-denominations with 28,000 sub denominations, and various associations, conferences, conventions, fellowships, groups, sect, cults, music groups, pot lucks, social gatherings and unions. All of these 61,000 groups have some of 1,375 doctrines and dogmas and beliefs.
They all partially agree with the RCC and all partially disagree with the RCC. So Catholic, I ask you who the heck is right? The real church that has taught only the truth for 2,000 years refusing to compromise the truth and remained faithful to Jesus teachings,or one of the 61,000 false groups teaching over 1,375 doctrines founded within the last 500 years . Galatians 1 explains it all for us!

1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. (1:8-9)
"If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed."If anyone dares to disagree with Paul on religious matters, “let him be accursed.”
1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. “If I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.”
Should we try to please everyone?
1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. **
 
For once we are in complete agreement!! Praise God!!
**Hi Protestant101, 👋

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Good one! 👍 I love the way Protestants and you SDA guys twist words and make lies from truths! It must take a lot of practice! You did it so quickly! Or is the medication making it hard for you to read any farther? I think you could ask the attendances to lower the dose, if it bothers your ability to concertrate! They have been know to do that!

I wouldn’t mind typing slower if it could help! **
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nsper7:
Originally Posted by Catholic daddy: “You just made my job a lot easier. And some day you will know just how lame that comment was.”
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I think he was being sarcastic**
**Hi nsper, 👋

Do you actually think he was? 😃 Someday he will be trying to explain to Jesus why he didn’t listen! **
 
**Hi Protestant101, 👋 **

**:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Good one! 👍 **
I love the way Protestants and you SDA guys twist words and make lies from truths! It must take a lot of practice! You did it so quickly! Or is the medication making it hard for you to read any farther? I think you could ask the attendances to lower the dose, if it bothers your ability to concertrate! They have been know to do that!

**I wouldn’t mind typing slower if it could help! **

Hi nsper, 👋

**Do you actually think he was? 😃 Someday he will be trying to explain to Jesus why he didn’t listen! **
Yes; it takes a lot of “attendees” to keep the lid on me, to be sure!! I know many people who have said God needs extra angels just to keep me safe each day! I am always into something.
 
**Hi Catholic daddy, 👋

I will confess, and then I will accuse, OK? I confess that I am total confused with the fact that today there are 33,000 counterfeit denominations, and non-denominations with 28,000 sub denominations, and various associations, conferences, conventions, fellowships, groups, sect, cults, music groups, pot lucks, social gatherings and unions. All of these 61,000 groups have some of 1,375 doctrines and dogmas and beliefs.
They all partially agree with the RCC and all partially disagree with the RCC. So Catholic, I ask you who the heck is right? The real church that has taught only the truth for 2,000 years refusing to compromise the truth and remained faithful to Jesus teachings,or one of the 61,000 false groups teaching over 1,375 doctrines founded within the last 500 years . Galatians 1 explains it all for us!

1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. (1:8-9)
“If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.”**If anyone dares to disagree with Paul on religious matters, “let him be accursed.”
1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. “If I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.”
Should we try to please everyone?
1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Sounds like the demons are getting restless tonight. I can’t count how many times I have used those words of Paul about “another gospel” to describe the abominable gospel of Rome. If you were to show Paul what the RCC has become–It’s pathetic obsession with Mary, Queen of Heaven, (never once mentioned by him), its prayers sent constantly to her rather than to Jesus, it’s bizarre notion of purgatory and manipulative use of it to raise money and control members, its complete ignorance of the doctrine of grace and its emphasis on works to merit the continued favor of God, and then the dark and still unexplored den of perversion that is the priesthood…he would instantly vomit and plead to be taken to a Church like the one I attend. I’m picking up my pearls and going home. Good night.
 
Sounds like the demons are getting restless tonight. I can’t count how many times I have used those words of Paul about “another gospel” to describe the abominable gospel of Rome. If you were to show Paul what the RCC has become–It’s pathetic obsession with Mary, Queen of Heaven, (never once mentioned by him), its prayers sent constantly to her rather than to Jesus, it’s bizarre notion of purgatory and manipulative use of it to raise money and control members, its complete ignorance of the doctrine of grace and its emphasis on works to merit the continued favor of God, and then the dark and still unexplored den of perversion that is the priesthood…he would instantly vomit and plead to be taken to a Church like the one I attend. I’m picking up my pearls and going home. Good night.
Sounds like someone needs to stop drinking the SDA kool-aid.
 
Nice try. The scripture is clear and, again, the Bible says elsewhere that the Church is built on Christ. How silly to think otherwise. If God had meant for us to understand it differently we would have the same word used in the original text.
Notice how you said “Nice try” and not “Wrong!” when you replied to my Catholic brethren? You know why? its because you know what he said is true. Jesus did speak Aramiac thats a “historical fact”. But why talk history here, no protestant ** dares ** to do it.

Jesus is also called as the Good Shepered but yet HE tells Peter to feed HIS lamb. sigh. Again, if God dosen`t build His church upon man, why did He write a book called the Bible (Which the Catholics compiled by the way) through man?? Also, if God DID start a church which He HIMSELF build with no intervention with man, are you in that church? I told you already, go to my post “History of the Roman Catholic Church”, and we will see if your alleged God-Made Church has history supporting it. But you know what? I am sure you will never post under my thread, or reply accuratly to my post here, because every other denomination other the RCC came AFTER the RCC. And if that is the case, what other church could possible lead its roots back to Peter??? and the Aposltes??? and to Jesus Christ HIMSELF???

Calvinists? no…Baptists?..no…your denomination???..no.

You see brother, its clear, we proove it over and over again. The Roman Catholic Church IS the Church that Jesus Christ established.

***check your christian encyclopida for more information:p ****

God Bless.
 
Jesus did not say He would build his Church on Peter. He said “You are Peter (literally a small stone), and on this Rock (literally a large rock) I will build my Church.”. The Rock was Christ himself and specifically the confession Peter had just made–“You are the Christ, the Son of the living God”. God would NEVER build his Church on one human, unless He was the Son of God!! Amazing that Roman Catholics don’t get it errrrrrrrr…not really amazing, since it helps them perpetuate their myth of exclusivity. Just sad, I guess.
Ah! But my friend. Jesus did not speak Greek. He spoke Aramaic.

In Aramaic, it would have gone like this. "You are Kepha, upon this kepha I will build my church". So the proper translation is really "You are Rock and upon this rock I will build my Church".

The only reason it was rendered as Peter and Petra in Geek was because the Greek language has genders. They cannot give a man a female name which is Petra so they changed it to Peter.

By the time of the writing of the Gospels the distinction of “small pebble and big rock” has disappeared.

And one thing you must remeber is that GOD WILLED IT THIS WAY. He didn’t have to, he could have just left us the Bible but NO, HE DID NOT DO THAT.

Instead He found a Church, and WITHIN this Church the BIBLE was written.


 
Nice try. The scripture is clear and, again, the Bible says elsewhere that the Church is built on Christ. How silly to think otherwise. If God had meant for us to understand it differently we would have the same word used in the original text.
That is true, the true foundation of the Church is Christ because it is His Church.

However according to Him, according to HIS OWN WORDS, HE BUILT IT ON PETER. HE WILLED TO BUILD IT ON PETER. HE CHOSE TO BUILD IT ON PETER.

My friend, methinks, you do not like His will at all with regards this.

If you have an issue with that, you have an issue with Christ.

So take it up with Him.😃
 
Notice how you said “Nice try” and not “Wrong!” when you replied to my Catholic brethren? You know why? its because you know what he said is true. Jesus did speak Aramiac thats a “historical fact”. But why talk history here, no protestant **dares **to do it.

Jesus is also called as the Good Shepered but yet HE tells Peter to feed HIS lamb. sigh. Again, if God dosen`t build His church upon man, why did He write a book called the Bible (Which the Catholics compiled by the way) through man?? Also, if God DID start a church which He HIMSELF build with no intervention with man, are you in that church? I told you already, go to my post “History of the Roman Catholic Church”, and we will see if your alleged God-Made Church has history supporting it. But you know what? I am sure you will never post under my thread, or reply accuratly to my post here, because every other denomination other the RCC came AFTER the RCC. And if that is the case, what other church could possible lead its roots back to Peter??? and the Aposltes??? and to Jesus Christ HIMSELF???

Calvinists? no…Baptists?..no…your denomination???..no.

You see brother, its clear, we proove it over and over again. The Roman Catholic Church IS the Church that Jesus Christ established.

***check your christian encyclopida for more information:p ****

God Bless.
The problem with protestants is that they forget that though the Bible is God’s Word it is written in Man’s Word. To understand God’s word you have to understand man’s word first.
 
Notice how you said “Nice try” and not “Wrong!” when you replied to my Catholic brethren? You know why? its because you know what he said is true. Jesus did speak Aramiac thats a “historical fact”. But why talk history here, no protestant ** dares ** to do it.

Jesus is also called as the Good Shepered but yet HE tells Peter to feed HIS lamb. sigh. Again, if God dosen`t build His church upon man, why did He write a book called the Bible (Which the Catholics compiled by the way) through man?? Also, if God DID start a church which He HIMSELF build with no intervention with man, are you in that church? I told you already, go to my post “History of the Roman Catholic Church”, and we will see if your alleged God-Made Church has history supporting it. But you know what? I am sure you will never post under my thread, or reply accuratly to my post here, because every other denomination other the RCC came AFTER the RCC. And if that is the case, what other church could possible lead its roots back to Peter??? and the Aposltes??? and to Jesus Christ HIMSELF???

Calvinists? no…Baptists?..no…your denomination???..no.

You see brother, its clear, we proove it over and over again. The Roman Catholic Church IS the Church that Jesus Christ established.

***check your christian encyclopida for more information:p ****

God Bless.
Actually, that is not 100% correct. One of the primary languages was Aramaic, but Jesus was able to speak many languages and did. All one has to do is look at all the diversity of groups Jesus spoke with, not all used Aramaic as the primary language. Also, we know from the day of Pentecost that the Apostles spoke in many languages. This is why the Greek language is so perfect for God to have used for the New Testament because of it’s rich color allows us to more fully understand in our limited human capacity the treasures of His word.
 
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