A Man told me I’m not born again if I’m Catholic

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A man told me I’m not born again if I’m Catholic and I must be born again to get to heaven he also said the Catholic Church is a cult
 
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People say lots of strange things. Why do you think this guy is any kind of authority?
 
Was there any context? If you were validly baptized you are “born again”. Was there some objection given?
 
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Was there any context? If you were validly baptized you are “born again”. Was there some objection given?
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Unless this person is someone the OP is close to I don’t see why they should bother debating some random guy. Just ignore him and move on.
 
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You’re a member of the very Church of Jesus Christ. If you’re not born again, no one is.
 
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he also said the Catholic Church is a cult
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If we are, we sure are doing a bad job at it, given how all of our beliefs are out there and that anyone can join. 🤔 Oh, and our hospitals, charities, and world renowned universities sure are cesspools of ignorance and greed! We don’t want our members knowing what’s out there! 😤
 
This man is incorrect.

Also, I don’t understand how people can think the Catholic Church is a cult.
 
Cults are easy to enter and hard to leave. Catholicism is the opposite: it takes around a year to convert as an adult and nobody is likely to notice if you stop going to Mass.
 
Haha, dude I wasn’t “correcting” you. I was just thinking out loud. I’m just a random dummy on the internet, what do I know? Maybe I’m full of it and you’re right on the money.
 
I’m sorry. I had intended to indicate that I was being goofy in my response but hit reply before I was able to do that. You are correct though. There are a lot of questions posted here that appear intended to get a rise out of the regulars. I was trying to help ferret that out.

I apologize.
 
If you are worried about being ‘born again’ in any way, remember that you are baptised, and when you go to any mass you ask God to forgive your sins, you glorify God ask his help in the problems of the world and take the Eucharist. Ask the Holy Spirit to come to you and reassure you when you pray privately also. I had an experience where I was literally zapped by the Holy Spirit when I was younger when I prayed and repented of my sins and became a Christian. This led me to be baptised in water at age 16 and I now realise how this was a special grace that I was given that led me eventually to the Catholic Church. Ask seek knock xxx
 
Many Evangelicals believe any religion that isn’t Evangelical Protestantism is automatically a “cult”.
 
What’s his explanation for this? Jesus didn’t give criteria for being born again as belonging to the First Baptist Pentecostal church of Joseph Smith or whatever this guy subscribes to…
 
I have always been mystified by the Evangelical requirement to be ‘born again’ in addition to having been validly baptised. Why they do not consider baptism to be the born-again requirement mentioned in Scripture would seem to me to be a misreading of the passage in question in the King James translation, a version already riddled with inaccuracies. In my view, this unnecessary and dangerous misreading has led to the phenomenon of many otherwise conscientious Christians manufacturing, or perhaps even inducing, mystical experiences out of whole cloth, simply in order to fit into the strictures of their particular denomination. Please forgive my lack of charity in so saying, but that is my distinct impression.
 
Remember, for Evangelicals there are no sacraments, only ordinances. To them, Baptism has no power. It’s merely a sign of obedience that Christ ordered his followers to do.
 
Rosie11 said:
A man told me I’m not born again if I’m Catholic and I must be born again to get to heaven he also said the Catholic Church is a cult
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Rubbish.

I bet he also believes that he became “born again” by saying a certain prayer once in his life. And he probably also believes that his salvation can never be lost no matter what he does for the rest of his life because one day he took a few seconds to say some prayer. :roll_eyes:

Seriously, unless you are close friends or family and are actively trying to argue religion with him, move on.
 
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