A peaceful man that Muhammad was

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dessert said:
No.

Hitler was in WWI as a young guard being nutured by the regime,
preparing for his destiny, if no intervention, and there was none.

So much for being nurtured, by his mother who was probably waving the flag.

I’ll bet paarsurrey had a good, loving mother my guess 🙂
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Indeed, he rejoiced when WWI broke out
 
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Indeed, he rejoiced when WWI broke out
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Yes he did, that is what I was stating, and hes was nutured in war for about till the next war of WW II . Do you think this guy was primed and bitter. I think so. I say it is nuture not nature.
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MOHAMMAD DID WHAT…? (Violence recorded in the Hadith)

Jabir b. 'Abdullah reported that ***Allah’s Apostle ***(may peace be upon him) stoned (to death) a person from Banu Aslam, and a Jew and his wife. Book 017, Number 4216:

The prophet (Mohammad) cut off the hands and feet of the men belonging to the tribe of Uraina and did not cauterize (their bleeding limbs) till they died. Sahih Al- Bukhair, Vol 8, Book 82, Hadith 795.

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: Allah’s Apostle said, ***“Who is willing to kill Ka’b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?” Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, “O Allah’s Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?” The Prophet said, “Yes,” Muhammad bin Maslama said, “Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab).” The Prophet said, “You may say it.” ***(Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 369)

Sira, p463-4: Then they {the tribe of Quraiza} surrendered, and the apostle confined them in Medina in the quarter of d. al-Harith, a woman of Bani al-Najjar. Then the apostle went out to the market of Medina and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for them and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches. Among them was the enemy of Allah Huyayy bin Akhtab and Kab bin Asad their chief. There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900. As they were being taken out in batches to the Apostle they asked Kab what he thought would be done with them. He replied, "Will you never understand? Don’t you see that the summoner never stops and those who are taken away do not return? By Allah it is death!" This went on until the Apostle made an end of them.

A series of letters Muhammad wrote to the rulers of the nations surrounding Arabia, calling them to his new faith. His letter to Heraclius, the Eastern Roman Emperor in Constantinople, is typical of this threat: ***“Now then, I invite you to Islam (i.e. surrender to Allah), embrace Islam and you will be safe: embrace Islam and Allah will bestow on you a double reward. But if you reject this invitation of Islam, you shall be responsible for misguiding the peasants (i.e. your nation).” ***(Mohammad Ibn Ismaiel al-Bukhari: The Translation of the meanings, vol.4 book 56, no. 2941, translated M.Khan (1997) –source ‘Religion of Peace by Robert Spencer (2007)

Great exemplar to the world as an ‘alleged’ last prophet for mankind! DID JESUS COMMAND or COMMITT ANY OF THIS.
 
Sura10_Ayat94 said:
MOHAMMAD DID WHAT…? (Violence recorded in the Hadith)

Jabir b. 'Abdullah reported that ***Allah’s Apostle ***(may peace be upon him) stoned (to death) a person from Banu Aslam, and a Jew and his wife. Book 017, Number 4216:

The prophet (Mohammad) cut off the hands and feet of the men belonging to the tribe of Uraina and did not cauterize (their bleeding limbs) till they died. Sahih Al- Bukhair, Vol 8, Book 82, Hadith 795.

Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: Allah’s Apostle said, ***“Who is willing to kill Ka’b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?” Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, “O Allah’s Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?” The Prophet said, “Yes,” Muhammad bin Maslama said, “Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab).” The Prophet said, “You may say it.” ***(Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 369)

Sira, p463-4: Then they {the tribe of Quraiza} surrendered, and the apostle confined them in Medina in the quarter of d. al-Harith, a woman of Bani al-Najjar. Then the apostle went out to the market of Medina and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for them and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches. Among them was the enemy of Allah Huyayy bin Akhtab and Kab bin Asad their chief. There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900. As they were being taken out in batches to the Apostle they asked Kab what he thought would be done with them. He replied, "Will you never understand? Don’t you see that the summoner never stops and those who are taken away do not return? By Allah it is death!" This went on until the Apostle made an end of them.

A series of letters Muhammad wrote to the rulers of the nations surrounding Arabia, calling them to his new faith. His letter to Heraclius, the Eastern Roman Emperor in Constantinople, is typical of this threat: ***“Now then, I invite you to Islam (i.e. surrender to Allah), embrace Islam and you will be safe: embrace Islam and Allah will bestow on you a double reward. But if you reject this invitation of Islam, you shall be responsible for misguiding the peasants (i.e. your nation).” ***(Mohammad Ibn Ismaiel al-Bukhari: The Translation of the meanings, vol.4 book 56, no. 2941, translated M.Khan (1997) –source ‘Religion of Peace by Robert Spencer (2007)

Great exemplar to the world as an ‘alleged’ last prophet for mankind! DID JESUS COMMAND or COMMITT ANY OF THIS.
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Hi

We continue learning about Muhammad’s peaceful life in Mecca:
  1. THE PROPHET GOES TO TA’IF
    It seemed that in Mecca now nobody would listen to him
    and this made him sad. He felt he was stagnating. So he
    decided to turn elsewhere for the preaching of his Message,
    and he chose Ta’if, a small town about sixty miles to the south-
    east of Mecca and famed for its fruit and its agriculture. The
    Prophet’s decision was in keeping with the traditions of all
    Prophets. Moses turned now to the Pharaoh, now to Israel,
    and now to Midian. Jesus, similarly, turned now to Galilee,
    now to places across the Jordan, and now to Jerusalem.
  2. So the Holy Prophet of Islam, finding that Meccans would ill-treat
    but not listen, turned to Ta’if. In polytheistic beliefs and
    practices Ta’if was not behind Mecca. The idols to be found
    in the Ka’ba were not the only, nor the only important, idols
    in Arabia. One important idol, al-Lat, was to be found in
    because of it Ta’if also was a centre of pilgrimage.
    The inhabitants of Ta’if were connected with those of Mecca
    by ties of blood ; and many green spots between Ta’if and Mecca
    were owned by Meccans.
  3. On arrival at Ta’if, the Prophet had
    visits from its chiefs but none seemed willing to accept the
    Message. The rank and file obeyed their leaders and dis-
    missed the teaching with contempt. This was not unusual.
    People immersed in worldly affairs always regard such a Message
    as something of an interference and even an offence. Because
    the Message is without visible support-such as numbers or
    arms-they also feel they can dismiss it with contempt. The
    Prophet was no exception. Reports of him had already
    reached Ta’if and here he now was, without arms or following,
    a lone individual with only one companion, Zaid.
  4. The towns folk thought him a nuisance which should be ended, if only to
    please their chiefs. They set vagabonds of the town and street
    boys at him who pelted him with stones and drove him out of
    the town. Zaid was wounded and the Prophet began to bleed
    profusely. But the pursuit continued until this defenceless
    party of two was several miles out of Ta’if. The Prophet was
    sorely grieved and dejected when an angel descended upon
    him and asked if he would like his persecutors to be destroyed.
    “No,” said the Prophet. “I hope that of these very tormentors
    would be born those who would worship the One True God.”
    Bad’ al-Khalq.)
  5. Exhausted and dejected, he stopped at a vineyard owned by
    two Meccans who happened to be present. They were among
    his persecutors at Mecca, but on this occasion they became
    sympathetic. Was it because a Meccan had been ill-treated by
    the people of Ta’if, or was it because a spark of human kindness
    suddenly glowed in their hearts ? They sent to the Prophet
    a tray full of grapes with a Christian slave, 'Addas by name and
    belonging to Nineveh.
  6. 'Addas presented the tray to the Prophet
    and his companion. While he looked wistfully at them, he
    became more curious than ever when he heard the Prophet
    say, “In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.” His
    Christian background was enlivened and he felt he was in the
    presence of a Hebrew Prophet. The Prophet asked him where
    he belonged and 'Addas said Nineveh, upon which the Prophet
    said, “Jonah, son of Amittai, who belonged to Nineveh, was
    a holy man, a Prophet like me.”
  7. The Prophet also told of his own Message. 'Addas felt charmed and believed
    at once. He embraced the Prophet with tears in his eyes and
    started kissing his head, hands and feet. The meeting over,
    the Prophet turned again to Allah and said :
    Allah, I submit my plaint to Thee. I am weak, and without
    means. My people look down upon me. Thou art Lord of the
    weak and the poor and Thou art my Lord. To whom wilt
    Thou abandon me-to strangers who push me about or to the
    enemy who oppresses me in my own town ? If Thou art not
    angered at me, I care not for my enemy.
  8. Thy mercy be with me. I seek refuge in the light of Thy face. It is Thou
    Who canst drive away darkness from the world and give peace
    to all, here and hereafter. Let not Thy anger and Thy wrath
    descend on me. Thou art never angry except when Thou art
    pleased soon after. And there is no power and no refuge
    except with Thee (Hisham and Tabari).
    Having said this prayer, he set back for Mecca. He stopped
    en route at Nakhla for a few days and set out again. According
    to Meccan tradition he was no longer a citizen of Mecca. He
    had left it because he thought it hostile and could not return to
    it except with the permission of the Meccans. Accordingly,
    he sent word to Mut’im b in 'Adi-a Meccan chief, to ask if
    Meccans would permit him to come back. Muf’im, though as
    bitter an enemy as any other, possessed nobility of heart.
    He collected his sons and relatives. Arming themselves, they
    went to the Ka’ba. Standing in the courtyard he announced
    he was permitting the Prophet to return.
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Wow, thanks paars, now i have something to read to put me to sleep tonight
 
MelanieAnne said:
Perhaps I’ve missed something, but so far as I know Hitler wasn’t a pedophile, so doesn’t that put him ahead of Muhammed at least in one area?
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I think Hitler’s not being a pedophile has something to do with his having only one testicle.

A virtue made by necessity is hardly a virtue…
 
nonsumd said:
I think Hitler’s not being a pedophile has something to do with his having only one testicle.
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The two would not necessarily be connected.
nonsumd said:
A virtue made by necessity is hardly a virtue…
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Absolutely, which is why Islam, meaning ‘peace’ (through submission -whether it’s forced or not) isn’t the same as ‘peace’ to Christians
 
Montalban said:
The two would not necessarily be connected.
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Of course, the two were not connected – one was missing.
Absolutely, which is why Islam, meaning ‘peace’ (through submission -whether it’s forced or not) isn’t the same as ‘peace’ to Christians
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Salaam means “peace,” while islam literally means “surrender” or “submission” – in the case of name of the religion this is understood to be submission to God’s will.

Both derive from the same triconsonantal root, s-l-m and are cognate with the Hebrew shalom.

In Christian thinking, “submitting to God’s will” is not separate from “having/seeking/spreading God’s peace,” is it?

Particular Christians can misthink God’s will and *spread the opposite *of God’s peace just as much as particular Muslims can do so – indeed, Christians *have less of an excuse *for doing so since Christians, understanding that the Gospel puts the OT teachings in a new light, should be more detached from the the OT’s bellicose passages than Muslims can easily be from the bellicose passages in the Qur’an.
 
if moham-mad was a peaceful bloke then ganghis khan was a tulip!
 
Greetings. I am new to this forum so bear with me if I lack in some respects but I would like to know more about this peaceful man.
The first thing I would like to know is:
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Did Muhammad acquire/receive the Qu’ran text from Angel Gabriel?**
 
LOL I saw this title and I couldnt help but laugh.

Is that the sermon today from your local and friendly Imam?

Of all the places to see Islamic B.S.!

I didnt bother reading anything on this thread, I just hope it was a joke.
 
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