A thought I had about the end times and earthquakes

[donsnow]

My intention was* not* to start a thread about the end times. I started this thread because of what I stated in my original post.

The point of this thread was to show that since Jesus stated that there would be earthquakes then one of two things must be true: either there would be earthquakes all over the earth simultaneously or that Jesus was prophecying that there would be a global communication, such as the internet or TV. I say simultaneously because if they weren’t, it would just be any other day since earthquakes happen all over the world pretty regularly. Otherwise, there would be no way that people in Turkey would know about earthquakes in Oklahoma or vice versa.

That was the only point I was trying to make. I apologize if I opened up a can of worms for some. I know that can be easy on any forum.

Good morning, dandingo,

My apologies. I didn’t mean to hi-jack your thread from the OP. Only, the title and OP contain the phrase of “end times” and what Jesus said was in the context of when He returns, at the end. How can we discuss what he said, out of context?

Anyway, the earthquakes we’re having this century are generally stronger than before. And, it seems to me, that the pertinent fact of the Oklahoma earthquake is that the fault there is becoming active, and hasn’t been active for God knows how long.
I was raised in Texas, and in the 1940’s and '50’s there were no reports of earthquakes in Oklahoma. So, earthquake wise, now is different than before, in Oklahoma.

And, yes, there’s reports of earthquakes from all over the planet available on line:

earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.html

See for yourself, at the above link.

God loves you,
Don

 

[donsnow]

once again right on Don… thanks for headsup on Islam believing end of times now too…

hey i think you should run for president !!!

Good morning, duneman,

Well, when I finally woke up in the 1970’s and actually started thinking about things, the return of Israel from the mists of history was a big sign, to me. Because, there has to be a Jewish state for Our Lord Jesus Christ to return to.

Me? Run for President? You’ve got to be kidding. The oval office ages its occupant ten years for every four years served. I’m already 68, and don’t need to age any faster. I love America and she needs somebody better qualified than me, anyway.

God loves you,
Don

 

[thistle]

Thistle should have paid attention to last Sunday’s Gospel reading (Matthew 25). When the Bride Groom (Jesus) comes, it will be the foolish virgins who have no oil. Only the Wise Virgins will be the Bride to Christ.

Nobody should be wasting times looking for signs. Jesus told us to ALWAYS be ready.

 

[thistle]

St. Faustina’s diary was quoted - this is an approved revelation. John Paul II as Pope of the Church was not silent - he was quoted (and he said it at other times too, even when a cardinal), one of the greatest popes. EWTN was cited. In other words this is not my speculation - John Paul said as much. Blessed Mary said as much to St. Faustina when she urged her to alert people to lean on His Mercy before the Second Coming. Jesus Himself told St. Faustina her diary was to prepare the world for His final coming. These are not my words, they are theirs. So I think somebody is being a bit disingenuous in attributing these words to me. They are not speculation; they are not my interpretation - how do you interpret the words of Jesus and Blessed Mary to St. Faustina? Is there another meaning to ‘final coming’ and ‘Second Coming’ besides the end times?

No matter. It is not my job to convince anybody. The evidence is there, St. Faustina’s diary is online and also quoted by EWTN on that web page below. Everyone is free to accept it or discard it. As a visionary said not too long ago, “It used to hurt me when people didn’t believe me and called me a liar. Why would I lie? Now, I feel sorry for those people because they are wasting time arguing if this is true or not true. Tomorrow or the next day or the next they could be before the God. It is important to be ready for that and not waste this time. This time is a gift.”

The point of discussion is are we in the end times? Here again is that quote from the EWTN website:

It is clear that, like the message of Fátima, the urgency here is the urgency of the Gospel, “repent and believe.” The exact timing is the Lord’s. However, it** is also clear **that we have reached some critical phase of the end times that began with the birth of the Church. To this fact Pope John Paul II alluded at the consecration in 1981 of the Shrine of Merciful Love in Collevalenaza, Italy, when he noted the “special task” assigned to him by God “in the present situation of man, the Church and the world.” In His Encyclical on the Father he urges us "to implore God’s mercy for humanity in this hour of history … to beg for it at this difficult, critical phase of the history of the Church and of the world…

ewtn.com/devotionals/mercy/coming.htm

Good luck and God bless you. Look up and be ready.

PRIVATE revelations are not proof of anything. You know that very well.
Show me a Church document which states we are in end times!

 

[saveusfromhell]

Nobody should be wasting times looking for signs. Jesus told us to ALWAYS be ready.

then maybe you should tell God to stop sending visionaries, fatima ,st faustina etc

 

[Mojoala]

Another smart alex wanting a negative proved. How silly!!
The onus of proof is on Beeliner who said we are “deep into end times”.

I live in the real world of LAW.

Beeliner claims the World is guilty of being in the End Times. His attorney has to prove the world is guilty. My Attorney has to prove the World is not guilty.

Proving a negative is an everyday occurrence in Court Rooms.

“Can’t prove a Negative” is a copt out. I can’t specifically recall that phrase being used anywhere else but in Religious debates.

 

[Mojoala]

While I appreciate the thought, it is not possible to prove a negative. I think what I have given in the above posts illustrates we just might very will be in the time of the end, though, and that it would be wise for everybody to convert, to strengthen their relationship to God, and be ready.

Person claims the sun is yellow.

Bystander #1 says “Prove the Sun is yellow”

Bystander #2 says “Prove the Sun is not yellow”

Bystander #3 says “Look up at the sun and tell me what color it is. It looks white to me”

ERGO…Bystander #3 just proved a negative.

Elementary my dear Watson elementary…

Matter of fact, the Church teaches there are 9 signs of the End Times ( at least according to my Parish Priest’s Homily this past Sunday ).

if any one of the nine signs fail the test, then we are not in the End Times, therefore by logical deduction the negative has been proved.

 

[Logos_of_Ed]

We have to understand End Times as revealed in scripture{noone shall know the hour or the day- the kingdom of God is @hand} and private revelation @ Fatima and Garabandal,it gose w/ 2 Sunday’s ago be ready dont fall asleep , pray without ceasing many soul’s have given up, and dont believe THE TRUTH

It’s probably not end times anytime soon, don’t worry about it too much. If it was, there isn’t much we can do about it anyway.

 

[saveusfromhell]

Person claims the sun is yellow.

Bystander #1 says “Prove the Sun is yellow”

Bystander #2 says “Prove the Sun is not yellow”

Bystander #3 says “Look up at the sun and tell me what color it is. It looks white to me”

ERGO…Bystander #3 just proved a negative.

Elementary my dear Watson elementary…

Matter of fact, the Church teaches there are 9 signs of the End Times ( at least according to my Parish Priest’s Homily this past Sunday ).

if any one of the nine signs fail the test, then we are not in the End Times, therefore by logical deduction the negative has been proved.

somebody thought the sun is white so it’s not the end times. hmm i’ll have to think about that for a while. when Jesus christ came the rabbi’s did not accept him even though they knew the signs to expect.

 

[beehumble]

PRIVATE revelations are not proof of anything. You know that very well.
Show me a Church document which states we are in end times!

Perhaps you expect too much. Jesus isn’t going to come to your house and personally tell you we are in the critical phase of the end times, as the EWTN article on Divine Mercy and the Second Coming did.

He already told us what signs would be prevalent at that time; it has been said that we need to pray to understand the signs of these times, so if people pray more, they will know (discernment).

God bless you. Again, I am done trying to convince you. It is pointless to go back and forth on it, it is better to pray and try to make oneself and one’s friends ready for whatever comes.

Take care.

 

[beehumble]

Person claims the sun is yellow.

Bystander #1 says “Prove the Sun is yellow”

Bystander #2 says “Prove the Sun is not yellow”

Bystander #3 says “Look up at the sun and tell me what color it is. It looks white to me”

ERGO…Bystander #3 just proved a negative.

Elementary my dear Watson elementary…

Matter of fact, the Church teaches there are 9 signs of the End Times ( at least according to my Parish Priest’s Homily this past Sunday ).

if any one of the nine signs fail the test, then we are not in the End Times, therefore by logical deduction the negative has been proved.

And what were those nine signs? I have seen lists on the internet, and some items on them don’t always measure up (there are different lists hence I ask about yours).

One item on many lists is the ‘conversion’ of the Jewish people - at least a large number of them recognizing Jesus as the Messiah. This is also in the Catechism.

This one is tough for one reason - it is most likely that this conversion will happen very near the end of the end times, so to wait for that sign will mean it could be too late for many others to try to convert at that point. It has been stated as happening AFTER the full number of the Gentiles comes in, so when it happens it might be too late for any more non-Jews at that point to enter the Kingdom.

God bless you.

 

[thistle]

Perhaps you expect too much. Jesus isn’t going to come to your house and personally tell you we are in the critical phase of the end times, as the EWTN article on Divine Mercy and the Second Coming did.

He already told us what signs would be prevalent at that time; it has been said that we need to pray to understand the signs of these times, so if people pray more, they will know (discernment).

God bless you. Again, I am done trying to convince you. It is pointless to go back and forth on it, it is better to pray and try to make oneself and one’s friends ready for whatever comes.

Take care.

You keep digressing. I repeat. Show me a Church document that states we are in end of times. Are you able to do that or not??

 

[beehumble]

You keep digressing. I repeat. Show me a Church document that states we are in end of times. Are you able to do that or not??

There will never be an official Church document that says we are in the critical phase of the end times, so I guess it will never come.

Some expect too much. A recent great Pope alluded to these times as being a critical phase of the end times. I am humble enough to accept that - it’s good enough for me.

God bless you.

 

[Faith1960]

Some expect too much. A recent great Pope alluded to these times as being a critical phase of the end times. I am humble enough to accept that - it’s good enough for me.

God bless you.

Which recent great Pope was that, and can you link us to it’s source, please?

 

[beehumble]

Which recent great Pope was that, and can you link us to it’s source, please?

I already linked - go back and read my posts.

 

[thistle]

There will never be an official Church document that says we are in the critical phase of the end times, so I guess it will never come.

Some expect too much. A recent great Pope alluded to these times as being a critical phase of the end times. I am humble enough to accept that - it’s good enough for me.

God bless you.

Okay. As you agree that the Church has NOT declared we are in end times I will now bow out as there is nothing left to discuss on this.

 

[beehumble]

We who are in the light, who are awake, when we see the signs Jesus gave that His approach is near, should not put our heads in the sand and think only of ourselves; we should strive to awaken our neighbors too as much as we can, so they too can be ready and awake when the thief comes in the night.

God bless you.

 

[rabbounied]

Thistle should have paid attention to last Sunday’s Gospel reading (Matthew 25). When the Bride Groom (Jesus) comes, it will be the foolish virgins who have no oil. Only the Wise Virgins will be the Bride to Christ.

if they shared there oil they would have not shut the door on them , the prayer of the Heart, is the way, if you have human hope, lift up your thoughts and become like little children, in all simplicity do you understand.the TRUTH

 

[Darran]

if they shared there oil they would have not shut the door on them , the prayer of the Heart, is the way, if you have human hope, lift up your thoughts and become like little children, in all simplicity do you understand.the TRUTH

I think you may have confused the parable of the bridesmaids. If they shared the oil both parties would have been shut out, as putting your own soul under danger of damnation in order to attempt to make a fool seem less foolish, is a trick of a devil - and the bridesmaids wouldn’t have been called “wise” as they were.

 

[Sister_Angel]

We who are in the light, who are awake, when we see the signs Jesus gave that His approach is near, should not put our heads in the sand and think only of ourselves; we should strive to awaken our neighbors too as much as we can, so they too can be ready and awake when the thief comes in the night.

God bless you.

Jesus will come as a thief in the night and i am going with him, you?