A very important article if you are at all concerned about the soft totalitarianism in America

[Elizabeth3]

Does President Trump have the right to exhaust all legal recourse available to him or not? None of your points change that fact. Are you arguing for eliminating or limiting the current legal processes in place in election law? If not, what point are you trying to make? Many lawsuits are thrown out in lower courts. Sometimes people seek out a ruling from a higher court and sometimes they don’t. That’s how the system works.

 

[Rasoleil]

Oy veh! I concede. Bless your heart.

 

[Elizabeth3]

Just a few simple questions but ok.

 

[ralfyman]

What takes place for media might also apply to social media, i.e., much of it is controlled by a few corporations:

These 6 Corporations Control 90% of the Media in America - Business Insider

And the major investors of these corporations will likely favor politicians who are to their advantage regardless of political party. And both parties will work for and with the rich because the latter controls much of the U.S. economy itself.

 

[HarryStotle]

Even more immediately the case…

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[HarryStotle]

EVERY single lawsuit, scores probably by now, that has been brought to the courts alledging voter fraud have been thrown out, including 9 in ONE day. Multiple election commissions and authorities, too numerous to list here, including those at the Federal gvt. level, have found absolutely NO proof of voter fraud. The courts, election commissions, and numerous officials have found NO fraud. Is this a conspiracy?
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Why the need to keep repeating these facts?

Instilling the truth?

Reinforcing who is in control?

 

[Maximian]

Liberalism inevitably leads to totalitarianism because it depends upon the idea that each person can decide what is right. Therefore a person can decide it is right to make everyone else shut up.

 

[po18guy]

“lost BOTH”

Please explain how you arrived at your conclusion despite the mountains of evidence of systemic, collusive, rampant, public and unapologetic FRAUD.

 

[otjm]

You have absolutely no clue. I have close friends who have experienced totalitarianism, and they all see that its home in the US is on the Left and that it’s a real danger.

One does not need to boot to those who have fled Communism.

One only has to do a minimal bit of research, to understand that BLM leaders are openly noting they are “Marxist trained”, and a bit more research to find that their recent fund raising non-profit has a board member who was openly Marxist and was given a 50+year federal sentence for her part in the bombing of the Pentagon and other terrorist deeds - and was pardoned on his last day by Bill Clinton.

Those folks are open about, almost to the point of bragging about it.

 

[Inquisitor85]

Yet. For now the big tech companies and corporations seem to be chasing away and censoring any view point that doesn’t meet the group-think standard so they are frozen out of the mainstream.

What are your thoughts on Mccarthyism?

 

[Inquisitor85]

Liberalism inevitably leads to totalitarianism

Funny enough, parts of the far left agree with that statement.

They’d say that Liberalism’s obsession with free speech allows those who would curtail free speech to take over, under the guise of free speech. Pretty much exactly how a certain far-right ideology with a charismatic character leading it took over a central European country in the 1930’s.

 

[Maximian]

They’d say that Liberalism’s obsession with free speech allows those who would curtail free speech to take over, under the guise of free speech. Pretty much exactly how a certain far-right ideology with a charismatic character leading it took over a central European country in the 1930’s.

Spot on.

It is not often realised that the roots of Nazism go back to 19th century German liberalism, which grew out of the Napoleonic era Reform Movement. The creation of the German Empire was a liberal project.

Opposition to all this came from the monarchists; it is no accident that the most important conspirstors against Hitler were old fashioned aristocratic monarchists. Not liberals.

 

[Inquisitor85]

Opposition to all this came from the monarchists; it is no accident that the most important conspirstors against Hitler were old fashioned aristocratic monarchists. Not liberals.

True, the Social Democrats in Germany in the interwar years were opposed to fascism/nazism as well. The “Iron Front” logo (now, ironically, co-opted by Socialists) represents “Three Arrows over Fascism, Three Arrows over Communism and Three Arrows over Monarchism.”

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[whatistrue]

So double checking election results when there seems to be anomalies is on par with conspiracy theories?

Not at all. But manufacturing anomalies that don’t actually exist, and claiming that methods that have been used in elections in multiple states for multiple decades are new, unproven, and risky can approach conspiracy theory levels, especially when asserted with utterly no foundation except “Person X said it”. These mountains of evidence so far are not evident in any way.

 

[Kei]

You are pushing falsehoods against Rudy Giuliani.

(Edit: For instance,) In the film you mention, he was NOT under the impression she was 14. She was posing as a conservative journalist. The idea that she was 14 came about as Borat jumped out and said the punchline that she’s 14, she’s “too old for you.”
In the scene, you can see high editing as well. If you watch closely, you can even see “ghost” fragments, part of video that isn’t in the final cut.

I write this as someone’s good name is on the line here, and as a Catholic that’s pretty important. Also, be careful with the court cases. He’s recently won in PA, for instance, and the news tried saying the team retracted (edit: a large claim of) a suit that it in fact did not (fake news!). You have to be careful here. Regardless what you think, this was a strange election. Record turnout, high levels of mail-in ballots, an incumbent getting over 10 million more votes than when first elected and still the projected loser. The first time in, what, 150 years that a presidential candidate wins without Ohio or Florida (the exception is JFK beating Nixon, but most historians agree JFK won due to fraud). It’s all very strange, and making sure everything is fine is no crime. When results are certified, there is still time for the president elect to be briefed, though I think giving briefings while not conceding may have been the way to go.

 

[po18guy]

McCarthy was proved right. Facts are facts. Just got red pilled.

 

[GKMotley]

He was proved right, in essence. But was a poor spokesman for the issue. Evans’
BLACKLISTED BY HISTORY makes the best case for him I know.

The standard works on VENONA are essential to the story.

 

[puer.dei]

So double checking election results when there seems to be anomalies is on par with conspiracy theories?

Well, when you can’t provide any proof, and therefore the courts are throwing out your filings, but you still say “massive fraud!! because I said so!!” – then, yes, it’s on a par with conspiracy theories.

 

[puer.dei]

the news tried saying the team retracted a suit that it in fact did not

The news said they had dropped part of their claim, which they did.

 

[Kei]

The news said they had dropped part of their claim, which they did.

Maybe it depends on what news you were reading, but there was a characterization that they had dropped their claim concerning nearly 700 thousand ballots processed illegally. While they restructured the suit, the claim of 700 thousand improperly handled ballots was still very much part of it (paragraph 4 of the amended filing).
I don’t know if there’s some technicality that makes reporting technically true, but it was at least misleading.