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I’d like to be a Grand Inquisitor.Some arguments aren’t worthy of a response.
I’d like to be a Grand Inquisitor.Some arguments aren’t worthy of a response.
including the women who’ve had abortions, right?I put barring them from certain jobs and offices and imprisoning them for a set length of time. Honestly I think that those people who truly believe it is okay to murder babies need therapy. Yes, the public needs to be protected from their leadership but there is forgiveness for everyone, and everyone should have the opportunity for change. If they will not stop trying to kill people then they should be imprisoned for life. These people need help more than anything.
I agree; I wonder why I’ve been here!!!Some arguments aren’t worthy of a response.
sir, we are making Lists, and checking them, twice.I agree; I wonder why I’ve been here!!!![]()
And that makes the regime legitimate? Is it legitimate to not investigate the murder, rape or theft against a Jew? Do you mean to tell me that the Gestapo - the secret police - were a legitimate organization?German laws against murder, rape, and the like were legitimate, just as they are in every country.
What about the person who supports the legal rounding up and punishing of people through ex post facto laws?If a person supports legalizing the mass murder of a specific group, then they’re hate filled.
It was a legitimate political authority. It’s regular police were legitimate.And that makes the regime legitimate? Is it legitimate to not investigate the murder, rape or theft against a Jew? Do you mean to tell me that the Gestapo - the secret police - were a legitimate organization?
It’s not hateful to advocate the prosecution of crimes against humanity.What about the person who supports the legal rounding up and punishing of people through ex post facto laws?
technically speaking, the reichstag passed the Enabling act every year giving full authority to hitler to dictatorate away to his black heart’s content.It [the Gestapo] was a legitimate political authority. It’s regular police were legitimate…
… by engaging in crimes against humanity.…It’s not hateful to advocate the prosecution of crimes against humanity…
No it wasn’t. It was declared to be illegitimate. Why you keep insisting that it was is beyond me.It was a legitimate political authority.
Why not?Would devoutchristian be so bold as to declare the Constitution to be an illegal source of government since it allowed abortion, contraception, pornography, etc.? Exactly what fundamental rights would the individual possess under this new system, if any at all?
What here’s a crime against humanity?… by engaging in crimes against humanity.
That’s absurd. Was every arrest that occurred in Germany a kidnapping? If not then the state was legitimate.No it wasn’t. It was declared to be illegitimate. Why you keep insisting that it was is beyond me.
Being politically incorrect.What here’s a crime against humanity?
What makes devoutchristian the rule by which good government is measured? I prefer to follow Winston Churchill’s lead; “Democracy is the worst form of government except for all of the others.”Why not?
we’ve given that a pass.What here’s a crime against humanity?
“Following the defeat of the Third Reich at the conclusion of World War II in Europe, the party (the Nazi party, the ruling party of the state) was “completely and finally abolished and declared to be illegal” by the Allied occupying powers.”That’s absurd. Was every arrest that occurred in Germany a kidnapping? If not then the state was legitimate.
the Nazi regime is not, perhaps, the best role model for our New America. but it was the target of the Nuremberg trials (the OP’s choice of justice) and enjoyed a certain level of success, so a comparison of methods is not out of order. the nazi-era Volksgerichtshof (People’s Court, not to be confused with the TV series of the same name) might be a model for how we shall dispense justice.What makes devoutchristian the rule by which good government is measured? I prefer to follow Winston Churchill’s lead; “Democracy is the worst form of government except for all of the others.”
Unlike devoutchristian, I do not believe it possible to establish a perfect government. Fairwinds and I have been pointing to the fact that those men who did try to install perfect government ended up creating a state that was far worse and horrifying than what existed before. The attitude that usually exists in overthrowing a state that is perceived to be flawed or tyrannical is (to quote an early Bolshevik Cheka commander); “we don’t care about Justice; we’re here to settle accounts.”
Even the Vatican has not been immune lately to many trials and tribulations. The US Constitution may not be perfect, but I would take it over the starry eyed fantasies of one whose first inclination in starting a new society is to round up all of the abortion providers.
Of course. But that didn’t make the just actions taken by the German government illegitimate.“Following the defeat of the Third Reich at the conclusion of World War II in Europe, the party (the Nazi party, the ruling party of the state) was “completely and finally abolished and declared to be illegal” by the Allied occupying powers.”
Sort of. The women who’ve had abortions certainly need therapy but I don’t think they should have any legal action taken against them. In my country, the people in government who are against abortion keep their mouths shut because if they voice any pro-life sentiments they’ll lose their careers. Abortion is totally normal here, so I think it takes away from the culpability of a woman who has an unwanted pregnancy and is already confused about what to do, and has the raging hormones of a pregnant woman ontop of that. It’s not the same as some robber smothering an infant to keep him quiet.including the women who’ve had abortions, right?